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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 2:30 am
(October 29, 2015 at 1:45 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (October 28, 2015 at 8:48 am)Irrational Wrote: So what's that real Injeel book you're talking about then?
The real teachings of Jesus peace be upon him; taken directly from his mouth. What God told him.
Not what a scholar wrote about what he thought he heard.
No evidence of that at all, though. You can't just make stuff up and then assert it as truth.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 7:51 am
(October 28, 2015 at 12:51 pm)alpha male Wrote: (October 7, 2015 at 7:52 am)Ben Davis Wrote: On top of the issue of 'errancy' in the bible, your position ignores the fact that many of those groups, based on different interpretations, have a history of violence towards others, using the interpretations as a pretext for that violence. These are not petty or trivial matters of distinction; people have died over them. These are not 'unified' groups, these are independently functioning cells of differing belief, not to be glossed over in an apologetic.
Actually I agree with you, although that may have been a Freudian slip on your part.
Not Freudian, I don't believe that the deities exist: all theocratic or theological actions are a pretext.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 9:12 am
(October 29, 2015 at 2:30 am)Irrational Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 1:45 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: The real teachings of Jesus peace be upon him; taken directly from his mouth. What God told him.
Not what a scholar wrote about what he thought he heard.
No evidence of that at all, though. You can't just make stuff up and then assert it as truth.
That is exactly the cases with anything you hear. Either religious talk or normal talk. The only way to be certain is to validate what you hear against something. You can never trust "tales" to be true.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 10:05 am
(October 29, 2015 at 9:12 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 2:30 am)Irrational Wrote: No evidence of that at all, though. You can't just make stuff up and then assert it as truth.
That is exactly the cases with anything you hear. Either religious talk or normal talk. The only way to be certain is to validate what you hear against something. You can never trust "tales" to be true.
Exactly. That's why you should go with the evidence, or if you're not qualified to do that, then either remain agnostic or go with what the experts in the field say.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 10:23 am
(October 29, 2015 at 10:05 am)Irrational Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 9:12 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: That is exactly the cases with anything you hear. Either religious talk or normal talk. The only way to be certain is to validate what you hear against something. You can never trust "tales" to be true.
Exactly. That's why you should go with the evidence, or if you're not qualified to do that, then either remain agnostic or go with what the experts in the field say.
Not when a verse in the Quran turns my life upside down, and I validated the book against life to find it does actually stand & live up to what it says.
I went with evidence all the way.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 10:26 am
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So do christians and hindus...I guess all of these faith traditions are simultaneously right while making mutually exclusive claims. lol.
Atlas, if you have evidence that your faith is true...present it. Make that thread, make that case. That's step 1. Claiming to possess evidence, and claiming to have validated your religion by it, is skipping that all important step 1, it's also pretty douchey.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 29, 2015 at 10:27 am
(October 29, 2015 at 10:23 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: (October 29, 2015 at 10:05 am)Irrational Wrote: Exactly. That's why you should go with the evidence, or if you're not qualified to do that, then either remain agnostic or go with what the experts in the field say.
Not when a verse in the Quran turns my life upside down, and I validated the book against life to find it does actually stand & live up to what it says.
I went with evidence all the way.
My curiosity is piqued, what was the life changing verse?
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 30, 2015 at 1:51 am
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(October 29, 2015 at 10:26 am)Rhythm & TubbyTubby Wrote: So do christians and hindus...I guess all of these faith traditions are simultaneously right while making mutually exclusive claims. lol.
Atlas, if you have evidence that your faith is true...present it. Make that thread, make that case. That's step 1. Claiming to possess evidence, and claiming to have validated your religion by it, is skipping that all important step 1, it's also pretty douchey.
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 30, 2015 at 3:23 am
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It's not insane, but you have concluded that because an event followed a similar dream, that they are in some way connected, rather than it being a coincidence.
How many dreams have you had that didn't come true?
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RE: Why the "There are so many interpretations of the Bible" claim is confused
October 30, 2015 at 3:42 am
Make a challenge.
Challenge is answered.
Shit.
Change the challenge.
Act like the biggest twat that's ever lived while staying consistently dishonest.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Good show, make sure you put the dryer on it's delicate setting.
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