Posts: 3101
Threads: 10
Joined: September 7, 2015
Reputation:
49
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 8:43 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Beccs Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 7:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ![[Image: 122fs329172.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.pic4ever.com%2Fimages%2F122fs329172.gif)
Do you often get chased by flutterbys, CL?
Well, to quote Luke Skywalker, "Look at the size of that thing!"
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
Posts: 34754
Threads: 200
Joined: August 13, 2012
Reputation:
145
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 8:48 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 8:43 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 8:24 pm)Beccs Wrote: Do you often get chased by flutterbys, CL?
Well, to quote Luke Skywalker, "Look at the size of that thing!"
Actually that was Wedge (Red 2). 
It's also something not many guys hear - at least in a positive way.
Dying to live, living to die.
Posts: 3101
Threads: 10
Joined: September 7, 2015
Reputation:
49
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 8:56 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Beccs Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 8:43 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Well, to quote Luke Skywalker, "Look at the size of that thing!"
Actually that was Wedge (Red 2).
It's also something not many guys hear - at least in a positive way.
Damn, I lose Nerd Points™. I was thinking of the scene where they first encounter the Death Star, but all Luke says there is "It's too big to be a space station."
Mea culpa. Mea maxima culpa!
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
Posts: 25314
Threads: 239
Joined: August 26, 2010
Reputation:
156
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 9:05 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Beccs Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 8:43 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: Well, to quote Luke Skywalker, "Look at the size of that thing!"
Actually that was Wedge (Red 2).
It's also something not many guys hear - at least in a positive way.
There's one that guys are known to hear, from their mates after the night before:
"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!"
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Posts: 3101
Threads: 10
Joined: September 7, 2015
Reputation:
49
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 9:13 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2015 at 9:14 pm by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(October 8, 2015 at 9:05 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 8:48 pm)Beccs Wrote: Actually that was Wedge (Red 2).
It's also something not many guys hear - at least in a positive way.
There's one that guys are known to hear, from their mates after the night before:
"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!"
"Get in there you big furry oaf, I don't care WHAT you smell!"
"There's an awful lot of moisture in here."
"Back door, huh? Good idea!"
"Pull out, Wedge, you're not doing any good back there!"
"Luke, at that speed do you think you'll be able to pull out in time?"
"Control! Control! You must learn control!"
"Possible he came in through the south entrance."
"I thought that hairy beast would be the end of me."
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
Posts: 34754
Threads: 200
Joined: August 13, 2012
Reputation:
145
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 9:24 pm
Kudos, you geeks!
Dying to live, living to die.
Posts: 3837
Threads: 197
Joined: August 28, 2013
Reputation:
38
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 10:01 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 6:15 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 5:46 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: What is your stance? you deny God exists entirely or you just don't want to be saved because you hate God
I don't hate God. I hate the being you describe as God.
If I thought for a moment there was a god, and that this god had the characteristics you describe in your Wholly Babble, then yes, I would hate this being.
But I hate God exactly as much as you hate Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and Smaug the Magnificent and Lord Voldemort and Darth Vader and Sauron.
(Previous, struck-out examples replaced with actual badguys who are more appropriate parallels to Genocidal Jehovah.)
I take issue with that statement. You name two excellently written villians that are ment to characterize some of the worse in humanity and how we are flawed despite our best intentions ( Vader wenting to keep his love alive after seeing many friends die brutal deaths, valdermorts drive to overcome his abusive upbringing and be the best he can be) in both cases they were initially consumed by this desire and the sacrifices they made to get there allowed them to be manipulated into what they eventually became. We remember them because we see some of them ourselves. You cannot say the same about the Christian God.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Posts: 5706
Threads: 67
Joined: June 13, 2014
Reputation:
69
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 10:09 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 10:01 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: (October 8, 2015 at 6:15 pm)TheRocketSurgeon Wrote: I don't hate God. I hate the being you describe as God.
If I thought for a moment there was a god, and that this god had the characteristics you describe in your Wholly Babble, then yes, I would hate this being.
But I hate God exactly as much as you hate Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy and Smaug the Magnificent and Lord Voldemort and Darth Vader and Sauron.
(Previous, struck-out examples replaced with actual badguys who are more appropriate parallels to Genocidal Jehovah.)
I take issue with that statement. You name two excellently written villians that are ment to characterize some of the worse in humanity and how we are flawed despite our best intentions ( Vader wenting to keep his love alive after seeing many friends die brutal deaths, valdermorts drive to overcome his abusive upbringing and be the best he can be) in both cases they were initially consumed by this desire and the sacrifices they made to get there allowed them to be manipulated into what they eventually became. We remember them because we see some of them ourselves. You cannot say the same about the Christian God. emphasis mine
You might not see humanity in god, but I do. I see jealously. Arbitrariness. Fear of competition and lack of control (Babel) . Favoritism. Not to mention self contentedness and desire for approval. Oh and a maniacal desire to torture others.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
Posts: 43162
Threads: 720
Joined: September 21, 2008
Reputation:
133
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 10:13 pm
(This post was last modified: October 8, 2015 at 10:14 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
"The Dark side" of uncivilized, barbaric and primal human nature thousands of years ago is written all over scripture... and of course it's no coincidence.
Posts: 7985
Threads: 38
Joined: March 18, 2014
Reputation:
54
RE: What the bible says Hell is like
October 8, 2015 at 10:22 pm
(October 8, 2015 at 4:03 pm)sinnerdaniel94 Wrote: people tortured and crucified him, but the good news is He has risen from the dead
Got any evidence for this claim? Real, testable, verifiable evidence. Not second-hand (at best) accounts of what some iron age goat herders claim their cousin's wife's sister saw.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
|
