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Believers: Why are you here?
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RE: Believers: Why are you here?
These are the answers I was hoping for. Not all the theists have chimed in yet, but I would hope that is their reason, as well (I have my doubts about a couple, though). I have the same reason for being glad there are theists here. I enjoy discussing the different reasons everyone can offer for believing or not believing. At the heart of it, I can't understand why anyone believes that there is a god and the discussions here have helped me understand a bit better. It hasn't changed my mind, I still don't believe it for a second, but at least I understand where you guys are coming from a little better than I used to.

We're all the same, really. Imperfect people with similar experiences. We live, we love, we work, etc... but some of us believe in god and some of us do not.
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#12
RE: Believers: Why are you here?
I'll say this about the theists here, they are prepared to defend and debate what they believe.

You try to debate the issue on a christian(for example) forum and you'll get shut down quicksmart.

The xtians that are on australianchristians have put the atheists on their ignore lists and refuse to

even talk to us.(rather petulant behaviour really)
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RE: Believers: Why are you here?
That would be rather petulant to ignore somone just seeking to see the other side of the equation. Glad I can accomidate the slings and arrows Big Grin
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RE: Believers: Why are you here?
(May 19, 2010 at 7:52 pm)Watson Wrote: As well as that, I really want to understand more about atheism. I want to observe how the view-point works and what affect holding it has on the atheist him/herself...the more I understand, the less reason for being one I see, however. Tongue

Well atheism is pretty easy to understand. Atheism is lack of belief in god or gods. It's got nothing to do with anything else. Just lack of belief in god. That's it.
Also reason has nothing to do with it. You either believe in god or you don't. Simple.
I don't believe that a god exists, and so this makes me an atheist.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan

Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.

Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.

You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
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