Why atheism?

[Mister Agenda]

Retroactive question answering. Wow Beccs that's pretty impressive.

That was stupid. She thinks atheism is the disbelief in Gods. She's mute to the silence. An easy way to convert her is to prove to her there is a God. You messed that up.

Almost all of us could be converted to theism (or at least maltheism), if someone proved there is a God (or gods).

[Mister Agenda]

No, I mean I realized I never bumped into any god. Your statement makes no sense while mine is easily read and comprehensible.

It may be your atheism that is blinding you. Afterall, I suggested many times throughout this thread that you must make a choice to believe in God.

An assertion you haven't bothered to support. Dismissed.

[Mister Agenda]

Im sorry for not getting to your post right away, but the suspense is just killing me. The direct opposite of christianity is defined as jew burning. And that is actually defined by atheism at large. If you research this, I can make a solemn oath to you, you will not be disappointed.

I don't approve of the Poe game, though I appreciate how smart I seem in comparison, but if you're going to do it, you should be a little more subtle than that.

[JackRussell]

It may be your atheism that is blinding you. Afterall, I suggested many times throughout this thread that you must make a choice to believe in God.

An assertion you haven't bothered to support. Dismissed.

QFT, you have a choice to believe in the Loch Ness monster; I for one will withhold that 'choice' in favour of evidential support for the affirmative. And I have to say the evidence for Nessie is somewhat superior to that of god(s), at least we have some grainy photographs :o

[Mister Agenda]

I KNOW atheism is a non belief in god, however someone my actually try to interpret that for themselves.

If it's easy to convert me with evidence, why have hundreds of Christians, and others, from across the globe failed to do so?

Is it because their evidence is lacking?

Beccs I hate to put this like this to you but yes. The theist "religion" is actually DIFFERENT than atheism. If you ever actuallly meet a sincere theist one day, you will undoubtedly be convinced.

It is also not the evidence you provide. It's the way you approach the topic you're presenting. You can be a balls to the wall atheist, hard pressed, finger pressing or whatever, but if you are not sincere, you will never see the actual battle theists see as it really does unfold. It's all about the evidence anyhow beccs, trying to intepret God is actually the first thing christians jump to (as compared to you atheists). Therefore, convincing you God is real is as easy as convincing a child.

I fail simply to see how so many have failed to convince you.

There are lots of theistic religions but no theist religion. Theism and atheism are differing opinions on the same topic (whether or not any gods really exist). The world is full of sincere theists, you can hardly roll a bowling ball down the sidewalk without hitting one. Most of them are unconvincing, but usually not as unconvincing as you.

I'll try to unscramble that second paragraph. You seem to be saying that theists skip determining if God exists and go straight to interpreting what God existing means, and that atheists don't skip the part where we figure out whether God exists in the first place. That actually sounds about right. And convincing people when they are children would be the best way to get someone to assume God's existence instead of determining it.

It doesn't matter how many people try to convince you of something if you can see through their arguments and none of them are any good. One good argument will do the trick. a million bad ones won't.

[SofaKingHigh]

I chose atheism because I want to burn in Hell for eternity, why else?

You are a silly person. 

I am, you're absolutely right.  Highly offensive, but very silly..... I do love reading the epics from the likes of Equillax and TheRocketSurgeon, but I'm nowhere near as well read and, to be frank, I can't be bothered and don't have the time.

So I shall mock instead, mercilessly. :-)

[Mister Agenda]

An easy way to convert us all, is to prove there is a god. 

Atheism is not a dogmatic position. 


If you were actually reading all the responses to your posts, you would notice a pretty common theme. And that is, that we are atheists because we are unconvinced by the arguments put forth by theists that a god exists.

If we were convinced, then we wouldn't be atheists. 

I get the impression that you do not understand how basic logic and critical thinking work.

I get the impression that you don't understand the meaning of my opening post. You must make a choice to believe in God simon moon. You ask that question to anyone in the world and you will discover that it is quite simply true.

And abundantly obvious. But simple minded atheists would never understand it.

And a christian would never- and I do mean ever- stoop so low as to prove to you that there is a God.

When I believed in God, it wasn't a choice, it was what I always remembered believing. When I stopped believing in God, it wasn't a choice, I just noticed one day that I didn't believe anymore. I am someone in the world. Thus, I refute you.

Never understand what? Did you present any evidence? Most of us used to believe, we not only understand it, many of us lived it.

Then why on earth would any Christian expect us to believe there is? If you're going to Poe, at least try to be believable as a Christian. It's not that hard, you're only a couple of degrees more over the top than the average fundamentalist visitor.

[KevinM1]

I think the choice/not choice thing is kind of weird.

I mean, yes, I consciously rejected every form of god presented to me so far because none of them met any kind of reasonable standard of proof for their existence. Being able to take in assertions (and not much else from theists), think about them, and compare them to reality and the burden of proof they must meet is an active endeavor.

But, since atheism is the default position, I didn't go from belief to an active choice of unbelief. I never really believed to begin with. I wanted to. I tried very hard to. I even went through the motions and aped what true believers said and did. But it was all an act, largely to not further distance myself from others (being in a wheelchair does that efficiently on its own). My atheism wasn't a choice. It's what I've always been, and will continue to be.

[Mister Agenda]

Some stripes of Christian want it to be a choice so they can take credit for choosing wisely and blame people who choose differently.

[jenny1972]

That was stupid. She thinks atheism is the disbelief in Gods. She's mute to the silence. An easy way to convert her is to prove to her there is a God. You messed that up.

Almost all of us could be converted to theism (or at least maltheism), if someone proved there is a God (or gods).

yes but first your mind has to be open to the possibility that God could exist or the idea there could be something beyond the material world to be converted through proof .