I have news for you peeps of AF...

[Edwardo Piet]

How about no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VauLAH4DTQ

[drfuzzy]

Well....

I do know that Killingsworth is English royalty, because Killingsworth is royalty where ever you go. The name just sticks out like a rock in a hard place. It's evidently the name of the son of God. And yes, this proves there is a God too.

The most prominent Killingsworths were landowners in Northumberland. Not royalty, just had a bit of land. So why couldnt you have chosen a better lie like being a Plantaganet or Tudor rather than lousy nobody with a name you find posh.

Yep, he's right.  I only claim amateur genealogist status, but confirming that only takes a few searches.  But even if he's Henry the 8th's long-lost distant grandson, (you know they think he had an illegitimate son, right?) it doesn't mean anything.   Most western Europeans and Americans have some "royal" blood.  For the American side, it's really easy to map out: the Colonies presented the opportunity of LAND . . . a chance to make money.  Who needed land and extra income, and HAD the income to book passage on a ship?  Minor nobles.  A lot of the late-1600 -> 1760 British colonists were 4th or 5th sons of Earls, Dukes, etc.  
    I must admit that I get a little kick out of being the 24th Great-granddaughter of Queen Eleanor of Aquitaine and King Henry II of England.  Plantagenet, a direct descendant of William the Conqueror on BOTH my Mother's and Father's side.  But so what?  This is common!!!  Many of my other 'Muricans have much closer and richer ancestries than that.
    And if J Bent Killmyself thinks that "royal blood" even means "decent human being" he needs to read more history books.   LOL!!   They were inbred SCUM.  

[JBrentonK]

I do know that Killingsworth is English royalty, because Killingsworth is royalty where ever you go.

To say you some time and trouble, here's a list of countries where Killingsworth is not a royal name.





Boru

Dude, if you're going to be an idiot, just stay out of my thread.

How about no.
So lets see your royal credentials.
Not that it means anything.
Met a few royals, they're just people.

Ooooookay. Boru, I hate to break it to you lad, but ...Every name that you see (and I do mean every one) that comes before you, is none other than a name of un-royalty. It's really just that simple. What's that prince that was caught doing sexually mischievous behavior? I forget his name, but it certainly isn't anything like Killingsworth. Now, if you think about that for a little while, you'll admit it as true. That is, if you know anything at all about the name beforehand. But I can pretty much guess that you don't recognize Killingsworth as a royal name, since you posted that video and everything. And that is a shame.

Downbeatplumb:

I was just outside thinking and you may be right about bringing up the whole "God" thing, at least in relation to the discussion of one being a son of God. It's pretty simple really. "You're the son of God, and there isn't even really proof to God!"

Well I was thinking of something to tell you about that and it's pretty obvious.... You asked for my credentials. Well, I have already promised half of the thread, and I can pretty much guarantee you it's true. But you'll have to take my word for it, unless you're interested in finding out for yourself.

My parents most likely the guardians of God's apple tree. That's pretty significant enough. But sadly that's almost all I have to say, because, you'd need to prove they are these sort of significant people before you discover that I'm their earthly son or whatever.

Nevertheless, I said there is more to say and there is. With them being the supposive guardians of the apple tree, there must be something to them which obviously sticks out. I mean, you'd think that "no one" guards the apple tree. But yet there's something really highly important about my parents (or, "these people). I'll go ahead and tell you there names. My fathers name is James Edward Killingsworth. My mothers name is Lisa Delorious Heaton Killingsworth. Now, I'll tell you something else.

My fathers father is James Thomas Killingsworth. You don't need to know my grandmothers name. I won't tell you. But James Thomas Killingsworth (just like James Edward Killingsworth) is a name just like my fathers (in the sense that he is the protector of the tree of course...). But he symbolizes "being the father of Jehovah God." Yes, in his name. It's as simple as that. You can understand it on these forums (which you can) or you can choose to continue the insults. But my father's name, is also really easy to understand. His name is just like that of Jehovah God's. That's right, people can just as easily confuse him with "being" Jehovah God. My mother also, is easily connected to the whole family, because she's obviously my fathers wife. So she is also easily recognized as "the wife of Jehovah God." ....I know it sounds sort of strange, but that's just for Pete's sake because we all know there is no wife of Jehovah God. Nevertheless, she symbolizes something like this.


My brother, Will Kill, and his name, almost completely silences that of Jesus Christ. That is how "profound" or "noble" or "royal" we Killingsworth are. But the problem is? Nobody knows it! As I have told the forum earlier, I believe my sister, Hollie Mae Killingsworth, is the "high Yuel" woman who is easily confused for being the daughter of God. Yes! That's her! She however, and her name, is very easy to understand, and it wouldn't take a simpleton to figure out that relation. Now, will you believe that my story is somewhat true but still continue to insult? That is my bet, at least.

Now you see how all of this makes sense. Why have an earthly family after all, unless there is some proof to attribute you to the existence of your father? Well, in this case at least, there are overwhelming amounts of proof relating to God, and many of those for that matter.

So in this sense you must really come back with some sort of a response, because I can't do the talking for you. I've informed you plenty of times of the truth, all you must do is take the claims seriously, and say something in response.

[Jenny A]

Well you have been having a busy week haven't you JBrentonK haven't you?  I've had a busy week too, but without good web access.  I have been reading you with interest *and a few giggles* though.  You've said:

all rational or thinking or perhaps even all human actions are prayer;

all humans are the sons of god;

belief is a choice;

FSM is pure hypocrisy;

Nazism and disbelief go hand in hand;

And a number of other odd claims.  So from the top:

If all human actions or even all rational human actions are prayer, that the word prayer has no useful meaning.  You have buried both  its worship and phrase aspect and it's plea aspect in a heap of everything else.  You remind me of a teacher who claimed every moment of every day was an education.  Well you might learn something from most moments.  And truly dedicated saints might make every gesture an act of faith.  But not everyone learns in every moment and virtually no one prays with every moment's actions.  Congratulations, you have made the term prayer both secular and meaningless.

If we are all the sons of god means no more than god created man, a little proof of that is in order.  Setting aside striking lack of evidence of the god claim in generally let alone the Christian god claim, or the even more specific are rather unique JBrenton god claim, the Bible does not suggest we are all the sons of god.  In the OT the men referred to as the son's of god, are men specially favored by god.  Adoptive sons as it were.  In the NT Jesus is referred to as god's only begotten son, begotten not made.  That suggest a rather different relationship.  Though in the gospels Jesus is also referred to in the OT sense as a favored man of god.  Interestingly, the son of man invariably means the messiah in either the OT or the NT.

Belief is a state of mind and not a choice.  Given the incredible lack of evidence, I could no more believe in god than I could believe the average American in Muslim.

FSM is pure satire.

As to Nazism, in Germany it was a movement supported by the largely Christian population. In the U.S. it still goes hand in hand with certain brands of Christianity.  This is not surprising as the anti-Jewish element in Natzism, is a long standing Christian tradition.

[Spooky]

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Yes, I have something to say. First of all, I would like to say it is going to be a little controversial when the discussion really starts to begin. Because there will be a lot of proofs beforehand though, that is really no problem with me.

I have proof that I am the son of God. You can disbelieve me if you want to. Go right ahead. Suit yourself. But I am the son of God.

Before I address anything in particular however, I would also like to state a very unheard of topic. The sons of God are also Sophocles, Euripides, and Aristophanes. I am Aeschylus. Somehow guys I got lucky. I turned out to be one of the 4 whom you guys haven't really addressed throughout history. You might be a little bit surprised to hear there are other sons of God. But I promise you once you research me deeply enough for the proof, you will want to research the other sons of God. Jesus Christ after all isn't Gods only "family."

My parents are very well known people (probably not well known to you however...). So are my brother and sister.

My name is James Brenton Killingsworth. You can research this name on the internet to discover proof that I am of God in a way or two. On this forum, I have been told without a seconds thought that I am significantly high nobility. Well, that is enough proof on the credibility of the name. But if you are really interested I will still be here at AF, ciphering through threads like most people do.

Yes, proof. There is the proof that the name means as I believe a friend of mine found on ancestry.com web-checks, the name literally means "from cilia" or in other words "from God." But if you are not persuaded feel free to investigate some more. Or better yet check out Sophocles, Euripides, or Aristophanes. They also have earthly parents, of whom no one else  in history has decided to investigate. And yes, I promise you they are the sons of God.

My family has my brother and sister who are also "famous." The famous Yeul woman that is thought of only as the daughter of God? That is my sister. I won't tell you her name.

But if you aren't interested I suggest you stay out of this thread. I just don't have time for hoaxes.

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[Spooky]

To say you some time and trouble, here's a list of countries where Killingsworth is not a royal name.





Boru

Reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGM-wSKFBpo

[Nay_Sayer]

Well you have been having a busy week haven't you JBrentonK haven't you?  I've had a busy week too, but without good web access.  I have been reading you with interest *and a few giggles* though.  You've said:

all rational or thinking or perhaps even all human actions are prayer;

all humans are the sons of god;

belief is a choice;

FSM is pure hypocrisy;

Nazism and disbelief go hand in hand;

And a number of other odd claims.  So from the top:

If all human actions or even all rational human actions are prayer, that the word prayer has no useful meaning.  You have buried both  its worship and phrase aspect and it's plea aspect in a heap of everything else.  You remind me of a teacher who claimed every moment of every day was an education.  Well you might learn something from most moments.  And truly dedicated saints might make every gesture an act of faith.  But not everyone learns in every moment and virtually no one prays with every moment's actions.  Congratulations, you have made the term prayer both secular and meaningless.

If we are all the sons of god means no more than god created man, a little proof of that is in order.  Setting aside striking lack of evidence of the god claim in generally let alone the Christian god claim, or the even more specific are rather unique JBrenton god claim, the Bible does not suggest we are all the sons of god.  In the OT the men referred to as the son's of god, are men specially favored by god.  Adoptive sons as it were.  In the NT Jesus is referred to as god's only begotten son, begotten not made.  That suggest a rather different relationship.  Though in the gospels Jesus is also referred to in the OT sense as a favored man of god.  Interestingly, the son of man invariably means the messiah in either the OT or the NT.

Belief is a state of mind and not a choice.  Given the incredible lack of evidence, I could no more believe in god than I could believe the average American in Muslim.

FSM is pure satire.

As to Nazism, in Germany it was a movement supported by the largely Christian population.  In the U.S. it still goes hand in hand with certain brands of Christianity.  This is not surprising as the anti-Jewish element in Natzism, is a long standing Christian tradition.

 Careful with your words bub, That'll get you a a paddling. FSM forgives you.

[JBrentonK]

Well you have been having a busy week haven't you JBrentonK haven't you?  I've had a busy week too, but without good web access.  I have been reading you with interest *and a few giggles* though.  You've said:

all rational or thinking or perhaps even all human actions are prayer;

all humans are the sons of god;

belief is a choice;

FSM is pure hypocrisy;

Nazism and disbelief go hand in hand;

And a number of other odd claims.  So from the top:

If all human actions or even all rational human actions are prayer, that the word prayer has no useful meaning.  You have buried both  its worship and phrase aspect and it's plea aspect in a heap of everything else.  You remind me of a teacher who claimed every moment of every day was an education.  Well you might learn something from most moments.  And truly dedicated saints might make every gesture an act of faith.  But not everyone learns in every moment and virtually no one prays with every moment's actions.  Congratulations, you have made the term prayer both secular and meaningless.

If we are all the sons of god means no more than god created man, a little proof of that is in order.  Setting aside striking lack of evidence of the god claim in generally let alone the Christian god claim, or the even more specific are rather unique JBrenton god claim, the Bible does not suggest we are all the sons of god.  In the OT the men referred to as the son's of god, are men specially favored by god.  Adoptive sons as it were.  In the NT Jesus is referred to as god's only begotten son, begotten not made.  That suggest a rather different relationship.  Though in the gospels Jesus is also referred to in the OT sense as a favored man of god.  Interestingly, the son of man invariably means the messiah in either the OT or the NT.

Belief is a state of mind and not a choice.  Given the incredible lack of evidence, I could no more believe in god than I could believe the average American in Muslim.

FSM is pure satire.

As to Nazism, in Germany it was a movement supported by the largely Christian population.  In the U.S. it still goes hand in hand with certain brands of Christianity.  This is not surprising as the anti-Jewish element in Natzism, is a long standing Christian tradition.

An obvious atheist! Hello!

Yes.... About prayer. I once started a thread on sciforums.com, and it was titled "Arguement from authority". Just forget the title. In the thread I simply wished to pose a question to atheists. My question was: "Why do human beings pray?". Immediately the entire thread could sense that all human beings pray, and it immediately jumped at by atheists.

Well I snared them in didn't I? Because prayer is a rational action which human beings alone are subject to, because it is rational. For example, it is not possible for animals to pray because that is an irrational species, incapable of the action of a rational act.

Sadly though, because prayer is a rational action, it also bears the weight that every human being prays. When we pray, we simply ask God to take away our sin. We pray for sex. We pray for sex with God.

Prayer is universal. It encompasses the great realm of the rational. Every human act is an act of prayer. Unconsciously or consciously, it doesn't matter. It really hurts an atheists feelings to come to know that he must pray. This only means that atheism is just an invented word, and that his "religion" is irrelevant to God's truths. If you wish to argue, find a monkey because he's the least rational of us all (what animal is the least rational?). Find some wall to speak to, mr atheist, because you've finally arrived upon the truth.

No, prayer is enough to make any atheist run away from himself. It's enough to cause a total upheaval of his beliefs. It is also enough to convert an atheist to Christianity, God's only religion. And we all believe in God, even if we may doubt that we "truly" do.


Sadly though, belief is a choice. You must choose to believe and when to believe. You must choose how to act (or believe), and you must also choose on what you direct you attention towards when you believe. And to believe is not a state of mind either, a simple "foggy aspect" of our every life's day. It is certainly not a part of us that comes to us when we least expect it, because to believe is only to choose that one believes. The reason that your irrational manner of conversation sticks out as abundantly obvious atheist, is becuase you have not made the choice to believe, you believe that all belief is not a matter of choice.

God asks us to choose when and how we believe.

As far as your hatred of christians in a NAZI'ist sense, that is rather odd. Because it is the atheists that hate the christians enough to manipulate the flesh and burn any disbelievers, it is the atheist that desires to disbelieve in God and turn the world into a matter of believers or non believers.

To disbelieve in God is therefore a state of mind (just kidding).

[Nay_Sayer]

God asks us to choose when and how we believe.

So why did you pick the wrong one?

[Jenny A]

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Well you have been having a busy week haven't you JBrentonK haven't you?  I've had a busy week too, but without good web access.  I have been reading you with interest *and a few giggles* though.  You've said:

all rational or thinking or perhaps even all human actions are prayer;

all humans are the sons of god;

belief is a choice;

FSM is pure hypocrisy;

Nazism and disbelief go hand in hand;

And a number of other odd claims.  So from the top:

If all human actions or even all rational human actions are prayer, that the word prayer has no useful meaning.  You have buried both  its worship and phrase aspect and it's plea aspect in a heap of everything else.  You remind me of a teacher who claimed every moment of every day was an education.  Well you might learn something from most moments.  And truly dedicated saints might make every gesture an act of faith.  But not everyone learns in every moment and virtually no one prays with every moment's actions.  Congratulations, you have made the term prayer both secular and meaningless.

If we are all the sons of god means no more than god created man, a little proof of that is in order.  Setting aside striking lack of evidence of the god claim in generally let alone the Christian god claim, or the even more specific are rather unique JBrenton god claim, the Bible does not suggest we are all the sons of god.  In the OT the men referred to as the son's of god, are men specially favored by god.  Adoptive sons as it were.  In the NT Jesus is referred to as god's only begotten son, begotten not made.  That suggest a rather different relationship.  Though in the gospels Jesus is also referred to in the OT sense as a favored man of god.  Interestingly, the son of man invariably means the messiah in either the OT or the NT.

Belief is a state of mind and not a choice.  Given the incredible lack of evidence, I could no more believe in god than I could believe the average American in Muslim.

FSM is pure satire.

As to Nazism, in Germany it was a movement supported by the largely Christian population.  In the U.S. it still goes hand in hand with certain brands of Christianity.  This is not surprising as the anti-Jewish element in Natzism, is a long standing Christian tradition.

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An obvious atheist! Hello!

Well it is in my signature yes.

Yes.... About prayer. I once started a thread on sciforums.com, and it was titled "Arguement from authority". Just forget the title. In the thread I simply wished to pose a question to atheists. My question was: "Why do human beings pray?". Immediately the entire thread could sense that all human beings pray, and it immediately jumped at by atheists.

Well I snared them in didn't I? Because prayer is a rational action which human beings alone are subject to, because it is rational. For example, it is not possible for animals to pray because that is an irrational species, incapable of the action of a rational act.

Not really.  To wish or plea is an action dogs, cats and many other animals indulge in.  I'm not sure it's rational.  We want something, but indulging in the idea that wanting might result is getting is not so very rational.  Nor is worshiping. Not that animals aren't rational.   Just about any animal that hunts, reasons.  They predict rationally what their prey will do next and act accordingly.  That's rational.

Sadly though, because prayer is a rational action, it also bears the weight that every human being prays. When we pray, we simply ask God to take away our sin. We pray for sex. We pray for sex with God.

WTF?  We pray for sex with god?  The idea never occur ed to me.  Praying to take away sin I've heard of, but it's silly.  If you've behaved immorally, no one can take that away.  

Prayer is universal. It encompasses the great realm of the rational. Every human act is an act of prayer. Unconsciously or consciously, it doesn't matter. It really hurts an atheists feelings to come to know that he must pray.

If to pray means to wish or entreat, I do and so does my dog.  But that just subverts the word prayer.

This only means that atheism is just an invented word, and that his "religion" is irrelevant to God's truths. If you wish to argue, find a monkey because he's the least rational of us all (what animal is the least rational?). Find some wall to speak to, mr atheist, because you've finally arrived upon the truth.

Word salad.  What do you actually mean, or do you know?

No, prayer is enough to make any atheist run away from himself. It's enough to cause a total upheaval of his beliefs. It is also enough to convert an atheist to Christianity, God's only religion. And we all believe in God, even if we may doubt that we "truly" do.

If all atheists pray as this is true, why are there atheists?

Sadly though, belief is a choice. You must choose to believe and when to believe. You must choose how to act (or believe), and you must also choose on what you direct you attention towards when you believe. And to believe is not a state of mind either, a simple "foggy aspect" of our every life's day. It is certainly not a part of us that comes to us when we least expect it, because to believe is only to choose that one believes. The reason that your irrational manner of conversation sticks out as abundantly obvious atheist, is becuase you have not made the choice to believe, you believe that all belief is not a matter of choice.

Belief should be a matter of evidence.  If it isn't for you than you are tending towards being that transitional being between ape and man.

God asks us to choose when and how we believe.

When god asks me anything I'll take notice because it would be some evidence of his existence.

As far as your hatred of christians in a NAZI'ist sense, that is rather odd. Because it is the atheists that hate the Christians enough to manipulate the flesh and burn any disbelievers, it is the atheist that desires to disbelieve in God and turn the world into a matter of believers or non believers.

I don't hate Christians generally.  Many of my friends are Christians.  But I wouldn't mind if they ceased to believe.  I have no fear of hellfire for either them or myself.  There is no evidence of hellfire.  I wouldn't want anyone to be afraid of something so unreal.