Question about Brain

[brewer]

Anyone here ever tried any herbal supplement for boosting concentration, memory, ............? There seems to be a new one that's got a lot of attention, starts with a C but can't remember the name.

If you have, what did your think?

Choline is what you're thinking of, and the category would be Nootropics.

Yes there are lots of Nootropics, ranging from herbal supplements to pills. I currently take Modafinil which is on the heavier spectrum of Nootropics.


They work. However, the heavier you go, or the more nootropics you take at once(because you can stack them on top of eachother), the worse the brain decline after you stop [may] be. Brain decline as in - if you are operating at a high level with the drugs, take them away, you will feel cognitively below normal for a while. I think it's worth it. I mean even though modafinil is on the heavier level of them, it has minimal side effects, which is why it is gaining popularity. My personal experience with it for me, is that it increases my: Memory, focus(not too much but I also take ADD medication for that specifically), Creativity, Energy(I will be researching sometimes on the internet from when I get home from school until 12 AM), but most importantly I make a lot more connections I otherwise would have missed. Like I can detect patterns much more efficiently.


I have been researching on this category of drug for the past week or so because I was curious since I was taking Modafinil already. It's pretty interesting, you should read up on it, there are a lot of over the counter nootropics you can get that do in fact work. For starters, one that a lot of people use that is pretty light that already has a lot of different nootropics combined in order to create a nootropic stack in only one pill is called "Alpha Brain".

Thanks for responding. The "c" supplement I was thinking of was a trade name and not choline. Choline is the precursor to acetylcholine, one of many neurotransmitters (among other things). That's why they use cholinesterase inhibitors as one possible treatment for dementia.

I have read up on them also. I just wanted to get someones opinion that had first had experience.

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Choline is what you're thinking of, and the category would be Nootropics.

Yes there are lots of Nootropics, ranging from herbal supplements to pills. I currently take Modafinil which is on the heavier spectrum of Nootropics.


They work. However, the heavier you go, or the more nootropics you take at once(because you can stack them on top of eachother), the worse the brain decline after you stop [may] be. Brain decline as in - if you are operating at a high level with the drugs, take them away, you will feel cognitively below normal for a while. I think it's worth it. I mean even though modafinil is on the heavier level of them, it has minimal side effects, which is why it is gaining popularity. My personal experience with it for me, is that it increases my: Memory, focus(not too much but I also take ADD medication for that specifically), Creativity, Energy(I will be researching sometimes on the internet from when I get home from school until 12 AM), but most importantly I make a lot more connections I otherwise would have missed. Like I can detect patterns much more efficiently.


I have been researching on this category of drug for the past week or so because I was curious since I was taking Modafinil already. It's pretty interesting, you should read up on it, there are a lot of over the counter nootropics you can get that do in fact work. For starters, one that a lot of people use that is pretty light that already has a lot of different nootropics combined in order to create a nootropic stack in only one pill is called "Alpha Brain".

Thanks for responding. The "c" supplement I was thinking of was a trade name and not choline. Choline is the precursor to acetylcholine, one of many neurotransmitters (among other things). That's why they use cholinesterase inhibitors as one possible treatment for dementia.

I have read up on them also. I just wanted to get someones opinion that had first had experience.

Oh alright. I just went to the word that I was most familiar with, as I had just looked up about what "Choline" is yesterday, so it's what I thought you were talking about. 

I know what you mean with the choline treating dementia, it seems it's a common trait that a lot of medications that were thought to treat different conditions are being discovered to have "brain enhancing" effects. For instance, Modafinil is originally(and still essentially is) a narcolepsy medication, but in recent studies and trends it's shown to be beneficial to normal people who have no noticeable issues. (this might be a tad wrong since I can't remember the full details) however,
Fun fact: I'm pretty sure the person who created Modafinil got contacted by the FDA and was threatened, or got a law suit filed or something, because he was apparently "advertising it as something it wasn't" I believe an ADHD medication, or something.

[houseofcantor]

This would be a better resource than wiki websites since anyone can go in there and type anything they want about any subject they want and it is so accepted by people whether or not it is the truth or not or credible sources or not.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/03/23/th...n-america/

Fine. Where in the article do they discuss the "US federal government actually created LSD to make super-human soldiers"? The US government did not create it. It was never tested to try and make super soldiers.

Did you just make the statement for effect?

Early CIA efforts focused on LSD, which later came to dominate many of MKUltra's programs. Technical Services Staff officials understood that LSD distorted a person's sense of reality, and they felt compelled to learn whether it could alter someone's basic loyalties.[32] The CIA wanted to know if they could make Russian spies defect against their will and whether the Russians could do the same to their own operatives.[32]

Once Project MKUltra officially got underway in April, 1953, experiments included administering LSD to mental patients, prisoners, drug addicts and prostitutes, "people who could not fight back," as one agency officer put it.[33]In one case LSD was administered to a mental patient in Kentucky for 174 days.[33] LSD was also administered to CIA employees, military personnel, doctors, other government agents, and members of the general public in order to study their reactions. LSD and other drugs were usually administered without the subject's knowledge or informed consent, a violation of the Nuremberg Code that the U.S. agreed to follow after World War II. The aim of this was to find drugs which would irresistibly bring out deep confessions or wipe a subject's mind clean and program him or her as "a robot agent."[34]

~from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

I used to that shit by the sheet. Wondered wtf I was doing to myself, so I researched the topic and found some nifty tidbits.

[I_am_not_mafia]

Anyone here ever tried any herbal supplement for boosting concentration, memory, ............? There seems to be a new one that's got a lot of attention, starts with a C but can't remember the name.

Whatever it is, it won't be as good as porridge and eggs for breakfast.

[houseofcantor]

Anyone here ever tried any herbal supplement for boosting concentration, memory, ............? There seems to be a new one that's got a lot of attention, starts with a C but can't remember the name.

Whatever it is, it won't be as good as porridge and eggs for breakfast.

IDK, meng. I'm on teh Merlot this breakfast - it's a winner. 

[John V]

Critical thinking is great... but in my experience if you try and do it all the time it becomes exhausting and can cause anxiety or OCD-like thinking.

Balance my friend... I mean even positive critical thinking... ALL the time is no good I mean everyone needs to relax and laugh on occasion and not be analyzing 100% of the time.

Check out my signature.

Well i would personally like to do as much critical thinking as possible that can still allow me to relax when I need to.

I'm not saying don't relax when you need to, but I think for a lot of us we relax way more than we need, I would rather take advantage of every minute in every day. I think that if you were smart enough you could think at a higher level all the time, and simply relax a portion of it when necessary. I don't think it'd be something that's uncontrollable, but I do think that if you could have your normal state of mind at a very high level of thought processing, you would take in a lot more information, make a lot more connections, and miss a lot less of what's going on in your surroundings.


This might be a personal issue and if so I understand. To get deep with you, I really have a fear of wasting my life. You probably won't agree, but I would sacrifice all laughter/enjoyment in order to have an impact on the world for future generations. Sure I could spend my life only pleasuring myself, but what good would it do if I was just another number added to a yearly statistic? I want to make my mark on history. To help advance the human race, that's the true goal.I want to take advantage of every minute in every day as possible, because I never know when I might run out of minutes. Everyone dies, but I have the chance to live forever through the people I affect, the ideas I influenced, and in a way, all big achievements in history never would have happened without the last. If no one discovered energy, Einstein never would've been given the chance to hypothesize the "E=MC(squared)" equation. Even deeper if you think about it, someone who makes a meaningful impact only comes along every now and then, there's a reason that P doesn't = NP, because you cannot invent something two steps ahead of what currently exists, you have to go one step at a time, if someone's not there to take the next step, the person who could've made the step after that can't because they needed that person in order to connect the dots. The stars only align every so often where a long line of people are able to take the next step. All discoveries ever made started at step #1, no one went from no technology to now inventing a computer.

Sorry if that's too deep, honestly, it's what goes on in my head every day.

If you want to make your mark on history...why are you wasting time screwing around on internet forums, asking for advice from people who aren't experts in the subject?

[houseofcantor]

If you want to make your mark on history...why are you wasting time screwing around on internet forums, asking for advice from people who aren't experts in the subject?

Says the expert on not being an expert.

Come on, Johnny V, you're better than that - why go for the low-hanging fruit?

[brewer]

~from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

I used to that shit by the sheet. Wondered wtf I was doing to myself, so I researched the topic and found some nifty tidbits.  

I was more of a micro dot/window pane guy.

[houseofcantor]

~from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

I used to that shit by the sheet. Wondered wtf I was doing to myself, so I researched the topic and found some nifty tidbits.  

I was more of a micro dot/window pane guy.

Lucky fuck. That shit was mostly passe by the time I arrived on the scene. Fortunately, the Dead were still playing when I joined the LSD experience.

[John V]

If you want to make your mark on history...why are you wasting time screwing around on internet forums, asking for advice from people who aren't experts in the subject?

Says the expert on not being an expert.  

Come on, Johnny V, you're better than that - why go for the low-hanging fruit?

That's the only kind of fruit around here lately.