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Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 21, 2015 at 10:41 am)robvalue Wrote: And all good parents have to punish their children for things they set up to happen, which they knew would happen. And they have to punish all their offspring too, forever, and hold their eternal happiness hostage in order to obtain blind obedience.

Well, to be honest, and I probably shouldn't admit this online, whenever my son misbehaved, a good spell in the oven at 550°F set him straight forthwith.

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lol like that one yes christianity makes so much sense doesnt it   Rolleyes
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The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 21, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(October 21, 2015 at 10:41 am)robvalue Wrote: And all good parents have to punish their children for things they set up to happen, which they knew would happen. And they have to punish all their offspring too, forever, and hold their eternal happiness hostage in order to obtain blind obedience.

Well, to be honest, and I probably shouldn't admit this online, whenever my son misbehaved, a good spell in the oven at 550°F set him straight forthwith.

When my son was just old enough to know what disobeying Dad was, and after I had told him repeatedly not to play in the cat's litter box, I awoke one morning to find kitty litter and cat shit strewn everywhere. My son just stood there, looking at me and laughing. He never did express contrition.

Needless to say, my righteous wrath was kindled, and I've been torturing the little son of a bitch ever since, with no end in sight.

All out of love, of course.
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(October 21, 2015 at 12:09 pm)jenny1972 Wrote:
(October 21, 2015 at 10:41 am)robvalue Wrote: And all good parents have to punish their children for things they set up to happen, which they knew would happen. And they have to punish all their offspring too, forever, and hold their eternal happiness hostage in order to obtain blind obedience.

lol yep ( " but Dad didnt you create evil in the first place?  Sad  " " dont talk back go to your room ! Angry and then go to Hell ! " )

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Go directly to hell! Do not pass go! Do not collect 200 shekels!

Fuck you dad. Your beard is mouldy.
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm)robvalue Wrote:
(October 21, 2015 at 12:09 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: lol yep ( " but Dad didnt you create evil in the first place?  Sad  " " dont talk back go to your room ! Angry and then go to Hell ! " )

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Go directly to hell! Do not pass go! Do not collect 200 shekels!

Fuck you dad. Your beard is mouldy.

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Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today   FSM Grin   Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you will join us And the world will be as one  - John Lennon

The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also  - Mark Twain
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 21, 2015 at 2:26 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:


You apparently don't know much about fallacies, nor sarcasm.  Argumentum ex culo is a sardonic way of telling you you're pulling your argument out of your ass. It's not actually a logical fallacy as much as it is simply an unsupported assertion.

I did gather that when I looked it up... However I don't understand the complaint. Is my understanding of algebra faulty, or can I add apples and oranges, to get a total number of apples.

(October 21, 2015 at 2:26 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:


This is the ex culo part, because Christianity posits a personal god. He is not a title, he is a being. You're trying to have it both ways when you argue this.

I believe I said being.

(October 21, 2015 at 2:26 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: So you worship a schizophrenic, then.  Got it.

I don't believe that is accurate.


(October 21, 2015 at 2:26 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(October 20, 2015 at 11:11 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: And it is not speaking about bodies... God is spirit and omnipresent.

Yes, I'm aware of that unsubstantiated claim, too.  Until I see a basis for accepting it, it too goes into the scrapheap. It's all very convenient to posit a truism that cannot be verified at all -- convenient, but not convincing.
OK...I'm familiar with pseudo-skepticism and it is expected.
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Pseudo-skepticism? What the hell are you talking about? Parkers is skeptical of your unverified, un-falsifiable claim . . . but it's pseudo-skepticism? I'm sure then that you can produce the goods, right?

Otherwise, the only sensible response is skepticism. Anything else would be mindless gullibility . . . no "pseudo" about it.
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RE: Are all atheists this ill-informed about religion?
(October 21, 2015 at 12:49 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:
(October 21, 2015 at 10:41 am)robvalue Wrote: And all good parents have to punish their children for things they set up to happen, which they knew would happen. And they have to punish all their offspring too, forever, and hold their eternal happiness hostage in order to obtain blind obedience.

Well, to be honest, and I probably shouldn't admit this online, whenever my son misbehaved, a good spell in the oven at 550°F set him straight forthwith.

And we must remember, no good parent would ever tolerate anything but sincere and complete worship from their children. Children must be made to understand that they are completely dependent on their parents and can not possibly think their own sense of morality compares to that of the parent. Children should be taught to feel shamefaced and afraid that any moment of joy not stemming from time spent worshipping the parent will be punished.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.

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(October 21, 2015 at 2:20 pm)robvalue Wrote:
(October 21, 2015 at 12:09 pm)jenny1972 Wrote: lol yep ( " but Dad didnt you create evil in the first place?  Sad  " " dont talk back go to your room ! Angry and then go to Hell ! " )

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