"There is no God" is an empty statement, as I take the statement on its own, it's a claim to certainty, an absolute, no better than saying there is a god. It's a philosophical dead end. The idea of God is preposterous to me, but outright claiming that there is no God is intellectually dishonest, because as stupid as the entire concept of an omnipotent humanoid entity may seem to any flatworm with a basic education in common sense, you can't KNOW it isn't truth. Certainty is the death of thought.
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Don't tell a Religious person "There is no God"
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 RE: Don't tell a Religious person "There is no God"
October 24, 2015 at 8:18 am
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2015 at 8:28 am by Bob Kelso.
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So I suppose you're uncomfortable with statements like "There are no fairies." then?
 (October 24, 2015 at 8:03 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: "There is no God" is an empty statement, as I take the statement on its own, it's a claim to certainty, an absolute, no better than saying there is a god. It's a philosophical dead end. The idea of God is preposterous to me, but outright claiming that there is no God is intellectually dishonest, because as stupid as the entire concept of an omnipotent humanoid entity may seem to any flatworm with a basic education in common sense, you can't KNOW it isn't truth. Certainty is the death of thought. I'm certain that you're a poopyhead, but I'm still thinking about it. So there! 
 RE: Don't tell a Religious person "There is no God"
October 24, 2015 at 8:33 am
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(October 24, 2015 at 8:03 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: The idea of God is preposterous to me, but outright claiming that there is no God is intellectually dishonest, because as stupid as the entire concept of an omnipotent humanoid entity may seem to any flatworm with a basic education in common sense, you can't KNOW it isn't truth. Certainty is the death of thought. You can't prove non-existence of anything. You can always find or make up ways in which existence of any particular thing (like god, yeti, or pink unicorns) can be possible, even if no one's ever perceived it, demonstrated it, or even thought of it. Go on - try it. Prove that one thing - anything you want - DOESN'T exist. I'll wait...
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one." - George Bernard Shaw
I see no value in asserting my personal beliefs in that manner. Proselytizing is annoying as shit no matter which side of the fence you are on.
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-Homer Simpson  (October 24, 2015 at 8:49 am)Mermaid Wrote: I see no value in asserting my personal beliefs in that manner. Proselytizing is annoying as shit no matter which side of the fence you are on. Well, OP is either one of those thinking to be part of some organised group/religion by being an atheist. Or he falls into the troll/Poe category. He made that pretty clear in his opener. Both options are equally unappealing to me. ![[Image: Bumper+Sticker+-+Asheville+-+Praise+Dog3.JPG]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-d-3rfdI7nG0%2FTerwtFyFXoI%2FAAAAAAAACak%2F7kFSmHeVrng%2Fs320%2FBumper%2BSticker%2B-%2BAsheville%2B-%2BPraise%2BDog3.JPG)
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Previous username: GUBU God! Theresa, I forgot me fecking trousers!  Religious Views: the Disc's first ligthning proof atheist (October 24, 2015 at 2:02 am)Irrational Wrote:(October 24, 2015 at 1:58 am)heatiosrs Wrote: It's not agnosticism, a lot of atheists will happily admit they "don't know" because no one can. Atheism is a lack of belief in god, not a belief there is no god, it's never safe to assert you know something 100% sure. Actually, when it comes to specific gods I am a gnostic atheist. When talking about a being in general for which it would be appropriate to call them god, then I'm agnostic, because it is possible that such a being exists, though under our current knowledge of reality quite improbable. The reason why I'm gnostically atheist wrt yhwh and his two bastard children god and alllah, thor, zeus, aphrodite, brahma and all those other gods is that it is clear when you examine the mythos behind each of them that they are figments of human imagination, stories used to explain phenomena beyond the grasp of the people who invented the stories or to excuse the worst excesses of the human psyche by showing so-called greater beings being just as bad, or simply invented to bilk the gullible out of their monies. It doesn't take much to disprove a specific god, a thorough understanding of their holy books or stories is enough.
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Home (October 24, 2015 at 8:57 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: Actually, when it comes to specific gods I am a gnostic atheist. When talking about a being in general for which it would be appropriate to call them god, then I'm agnostic, because it is possible that such a being exists, though under our current knowledge of reality quite improbable. Exactly the same with me.
There is no god and I'll assert this position until someone produces one. This epistemological nitpicking solves nothing.
 (October 24, 2015 at 3:42 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There are no celestial gods of any kind in this solar system. Nice quantified response. What about other than "celestial"? What about out side the solar system? What about anywhere?
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