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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 1, 2015 at 1:49 pm
(October 31, 2015 at 11:46 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: (October 31, 2015 at 7:48 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Here
As I was taught, Huggy, these verses refer to the coming of the kingdom. The 1000 years when god will rule over the nations. NOW - - in your defense, this is Isaiah. So it's a rule of the Messiah prophecy, maybe. Jesus hadn't arrived on the scene yet. But, I was taught that this didn't apply to heaven. And, of course, nearly everything that I was taught was a load of bullcrap.
SO - - and since I don't believe heaven exists - - whatever. Carry on.
That passage in Isaiah is referring to Mt. Zion (aka New Jerusalem, a city in the shape of a giant pyramid, 1500 miles square) the millennium takes place before this period.
After the 1000 years, there is a general resurrection, then Judgement and then a new earth.
Quote:Revelation 20:5
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Quote:Revelation 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Since the city is in heaven to begin with, that would mean the animals are there also.
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 4, 2015 at 6:53 pm
(November 1, 2015 at 1:40 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: There are no dogs in the golden cube.
Revelation 22:15 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...;MEV;VOICE
Maybe He'll let us have a dog run outside that we can visit. But I'll miss having them sleep on my bed.
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 4, 2015 at 6:59 pm
(November 4, 2015 at 6:53 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Maybe He'll let us have a dog run outside that we can visit. But I'll miss having them sleep on my bed.
Tell you what, if my dogs weren't allowed in, I wouldn't want to be there anyway.
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 4:46 am
(November 4, 2015 at 6:59 pm)abaris Wrote: (November 4, 2015 at 6:53 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Maybe He'll let us have a dog run outside that we can visit. But I'll miss having them sleep on my bed.
Tell you what, if my dogs weren't allowed in, I wouldn't want to be there anyway. The muslims claim that if a dog is in the house angles won't come in. So true muslims don't have house dogs.
Jesus didn't like dogs. https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Matthew%207:6
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 4:49 am
Well duh. Of course there are animals in heaven. People are animals, christers
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 5:00 am
(This post was last modified: November 7, 2015 at 5:02 am by robvalue.)
It's that arbitrary distinction that causes most of these woo concepts I think.
We're just monkeys who are better at screwing up the planet than most.
We're good at asking deep questions, not so good at seeing when those questions are loaded, and really bad at accepting we don't have all the answers.
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 10:50 am
(November 7, 2015 at 4:49 am)Vic Wrote: Well duh. Of course there are animals in heaven. People are animals, christers
THANK YOU. This is the fundamental principle that is the point of divide between creationists and, well, rational people. WE ARE ANIMALS, TOO.
If The Flintstones have taught us anything, it's that pelicans can be used to mix cement.
-Homer Simpson
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 11:17 am
It is a trick question. This is heaven and there are obviously animals here.
Of course we're quickly doing in all the ones that aren't tasty or useful, so what does that make us?
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 12:29 pm
It makes us a bag of wank potatoes.
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RE: Are there animals in heaven?
November 7, 2015 at 1:23 pm
We will form the order of Wank Potatoes then. Let us follow Rob. Take up your potato with one hand. You know what to take up with the other.
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