Russian Plane Crash

[Minimalist]

Opinions?

[abaris]

None of the above. Don't know is my answer, since the investigation is pending.

On a side note, I'm always amazed how late these news make it across the pond. It's making headlines here for thr last two days. Probably some celebrity fucking another interfered with the news.

[Shining_Finger]

First we need to know what the actual crash is.

[Minimalist]

The World Series just ended....besides, it was a weekend.

Give us a fucking break.

[Jackalope]

None of the above. Don't know is my answer, since the investigation is pending.

On a side note, I'm always amazed how late these news make it across the pond. It's making headlines here for thr last two days. Probably some celebrity fucking another interfered with the news.

It was all over the TV news in the USA last Saturday.

[Shining_Finger]

[vorlon13]

Dafuq ?

[Anomalocaris]

The plot of speed and altitude strongly suggest the plane suddenly made an very abrupt climb out of level flight, lost majority of its airspeed, and then plummeted.

The climb was very abrupt, but it didn't gain the plane a whole lot of altitude before airspeed all bled away, and the plane plummeted.

If the plane was largely intact and its engines functioning normally When for whatever reason it suddenly climb from cruising speed and altitude to the point of stalling, then the plane would likely Experience large gain in altitude before the actual stall.    So I suspect whatever cause the plane to suddenly climb had already inflicted major damage to the aircraft's aerodynamic properties and/or caused the loss of one or both engines before the plane started to gain altitude and lose airspeed

So my guess is it is some form of catastrophic structural failure which initiated the crash.   Perhaps explosive decompression that resulted in the loss of major sections of the fuselage or tail surfaces.   It's too early to say if it was caused by a bomb.    But major structural failure like this has happened before to civil airliners before without there being a bomb.

[Exian]

The plot of speed and altitude strongly suggest the plane suddenly made an very abrupt climb out of level flight, lost majority of its airspeed, and then plummeted.

Ah, yes. It could have been the plot of Speed. If only the pilot knew he couldn't go under 55mph.

[abaris]

If the plane was largely intact and its engines functioning normally When for whatever reason it suddenly climb from cruising speed and altitude to the point of stalling, then the plane would likely Experience large gain in altitude before the actual stall.

That's hardly possible with airbus systems in good working order. A 320 pilot once demonstrated to me what he could and couldn't do without the systems stepping on the brakes. A climb to a stall is virtually impossible, even if all the systems are disabled. Unless something took care of the safeties before that.