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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 15, 2015 at 11:52 pm
(November 15, 2015 at 11:09 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Then nor should being a "sinner". You can't have it both ways.
Like I said, breaking the Law makes you a criminal, you get nothing special for obeying the law. That's just how it is.
(November 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Are you down to arguing semantics? Is a rapist a good person, yes or no? Is a murderer a good person, yes or no? Is a thief a good person, yes or no? Look at you, trying to control the responses to your vapid questions. Are you that worried that it will all crumble if people don't stay within the lines you've prepared? You should be. I don't know whether or not any of them are good people, I only know that they have all, ostensibly, committed crimes. I hear Robin Hood was pretty decent, but he's a theif...so....?
So you can't admit that a rapist, murderer, or thief are bad people? hmmm, very telling, why do you believe God is bad again? If Robin robbed the poor and gave to the rich, would he still be a decent fellow? So why is he considered a decent person because he robs rich people and gives to poor?
(November 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Really? What about the guy that got a life sentence for stealing a donut? Does that punishment fit the crime? Link me the case, I have to see this one, lol. I'd hate to think you're full of shit...............
Allergic to google?
(November 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Reason and compassion have nothing to do with the law, which is why it's depicted as wearing a blindfold, it's impartial. If you think that law has nothing to do with reason, okay. If you think law has nothing to do with compassion, okay. I don't see the need to argue the points with you.
Ok, show me where the Law is discretionary...
(November 15, 2015 at 11:21 pm)Rhythm Wrote: (November 15, 2015 at 11:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: how many tames have you heard a Judge say that their hands were tied because the law demanded a certain sentence?
The same goes for the law of God, there is no compassion, only justice. If the penalty for sin is death, then his hands are tied, if you commit sin, you die, period.
But through the grace of Jesus Christ you are exempted from the penalty of death. Sounds like a charade to me. Glad we have a better legal system. Seriously though, why are we still discussing this, shouldn't you be packing? *emphasis mine*
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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 16, 2015 at 12:07 am
Quote:Like I said, breaking the Law makes you a criminal, you get nothing special for obeying the law.
Yes you do, you get to be a law-abiding citizen.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 16, 2015 at 12:17 am
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(November 16, 2015 at 12:07 am)Stimbo Wrote: Quote:Like I said, breaking the Law makes you a criminal, you get nothing special for obeying the law.
Yes you do, you get to be a law-abiding citizen.
If the overwhelming majority of the population are law abiding citizens, how then is being a law abiding citizen special?
More importantly, how does the government recognize your law abiding citizen status?
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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 16, 2015 at 2:01 am
(This post was last modified: November 16, 2015 at 2:20 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Well, for starters, they don't incarcerate you - so that's a bonus. Did you not realize that prosecutors have vast - vast- discretionary power? Go check the second amendment thread for an example. I don't always agree with how they use it, but it exists. Your boy didn't get life for a donut, the case was dropped, jackass (but I'd betya 5 bucks he's in jail for something else right now, if he isn't dead, it's sort of a career for him). He has 50 convictions, and would have been in prison for life earlier, if prosecutors hadn't used their discretion...that you don't think the law contains.
You're a fucking moron, Huggy, and just as I thought...full of shit. So, what's the next bold faced lie you'd like to put your name to, and double down on? Tell me a real good one, I'm in for a long night.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 16, 2015 at 12:31 pm
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Your boy wasn't facing life for stealing a donut, he was facing life for having dozens of convictions, any 3 of which could have sent him to prison indefinitely, but prosecutors repeatedly exercised their discretion, and this case, itself, was dropped. Yes, a life in prison is a fitting sentence for a life of crime. He doesn't seem to have spent much time -outside- of prison in any case, the constant coming and going was pointless. Stop, you're embarrassing yourself. Moron.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 16, 2015 at 12:45 pm
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(November 16, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Your boy wasn't facing life for stealing a donut, he was facing life for having dozens of convictions, any 3 of which could have sent him to prison indefinitely, but prosecutors repeatedly exercised their discretion, and this case, itself, was dropped. Stop, you're embarrassing yourself. Moron. You stated that
(November 15, 2015 at 10:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: because we, as reasonable and compassionate beings...have determined that the punishment must fit the crime.
That is a false statement, as I have posted a link to an article stating that over 3000 people are serving life for non violent crimes...
care to address that?
Whether or not the above case was dropped is irrelevant, It is a FACT that people are serving life sentences for non violent crimes.
(September 26, 2014 at 6:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (September 26, 2014 at 6:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm not going to go through line by line and tell you why each and every example is ignorance when any example will explain why -any other- is ignorance.
Wait...wait..you think that the only way a pattern can emerge is if the bees are ticking out numbers in their heads...doing reproductive math? You don't think that it has anything to do with the manner in which bees produce, and the way we might be able to express that mathematically?
Bees, btw...all have 2 parents. They reproduce sexually.........
Wrong, males come from a unfertilized egg, meaning they have no father....
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November 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm
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Drop it, you're done, you were caught in a bold faced lie. Moron.
What are you hoping to achieve by continuing? Do you wish to state that god's system is at least no worse than a system you believe to be utter garbage? Really? That's an awfully low bar for god, even for a believer.
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RE: The Tower of Babel
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RE: The Tower of Babel
November 16, 2015 at 12:52 pm
(November 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Drop it, you're done, you were caught in a bold faced lie. Moron.
What are you hoping to achieve by continuing? Do you wish to state that god's system is at least no worse than a system you believe to be utter garbage? Really?
Oh, so you have no response to anything I said? gotcha.
(September 26, 2014 at 6:36 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: (September 26, 2014 at 6:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm not going to go through line by line and tell you why each and every example is ignorance when any example will explain why -any other- is ignorance.
Wait...wait..you think that the only way a pattern can emerge is if the bees are ticking out numbers in their heads...doing reproductive math? You don't think that it has anything to do with the manner in which bees produce, and the way we might be able to express that mathematically?
Bees, btw...all have 2 parents. They reproduce sexually.........
Wrong, males come from a unfertilized egg, meaning they have no father....
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