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The Tower of Babel
RE: The Tower of Babel
(August 14, 2018 at 5:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Wow you just keep on embellishing.

It went from one witness to everybody being a witness, and from a republic truck chassis, to a custom trailer...

You asked me how a man could move the blocks 10 miles overnight with the equipment he had.  

The blocks were not moved over night, they were moved over 3 years.

Nevertheless ...the manner in which he lifted the blocks was explained to you.   The manner in which he moved the blocks, also explained to you.

You asked for a link.  You got one.

You asked for pictures.  You got them.

You asked for a film.  You got it.

You asked for citations....you got them..from the attractions own documentation.

You received additional info about the man himself that contextualized how he was familiar with the processes involved.  

Should I now have to explain axle loading vis-a-vis DOT regulations to you......because you don't understand trailers anymore than you understand doors....before you simply accept that if there's pyramid magic, this isn't a case of it in action?
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RE: The Tower of Babel
(August 14, 2018 at 5:55 pm)possibletarian Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 1:04 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: That's referring to 'mortar' being filled with rubble not the pyramid...

Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess, lets start slinging totally unrelated nonsense and hope its enough obfuscation.

Not only did it not say mortar in the article, they didn't use mortar at all in the great pyramid.

https://www.quora.com/Did-the-pyramids-use-mortar

This is literally the paragraph you quoted from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_p...techniques

Quote:As the stones forming the core of the pyramids were roughly cut, especially in the Great Pyramid, the material used to fill the gaps was another problem. Huge quantities of gypsum and rubble were needed. The filling has almost no binding properties, but it was necessary to stabilize the construction. To make the gypsum mortar, it had to be dehydrated by heating which requires large quantities of wood.

Don't go pulling a khemikal on me now
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RE: The Tower of Babel
(August 14, 2018 at 6:13 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 5:55 pm)possibletarian Wrote: Not only did it not say mortar in the article, they didn't use mortar at all in the great pyramid.

https://www.quora.com/Did-the-pyramids-use-mortar

This is literally the paragraph you quoted from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_p...techniques

Quote:As the stones forming the core of the pyramids were roughly cut, especially in the Great Pyramid, the material used to fill the gaps was another problem. Huge quantities of gypsum and rubble were needed. The filling has almost no binding properties, but it was necessary to stabilize the construction. To make the gypsum mortar, it had to be dehydrated by heating which requires large quantities of wood.

Don't  go pulling a khemikal on me now

And yet, no mortar was used... Don't go pulling a huggy on me now.

https://www.quora.com/Did-the-pyramids-use-mortar

Besides, huge amounts of rubble clearly made up the pyramid, so could not be solid stone as the researchers assumed.

Quote:The Coral Castle information booth was unable to identify a single scientist or engineer who had specifically examined the castle. This puts the claim in a whole new light, since "hasn't explained" is clearly not the same as "can't explain."

There is one detail that virtually all agree on: since the reclusive Leedskalnin spent nearly thirty years working mostly at night and away from prying eyes, no one actually saw him move the coral. Since no one saw the blocks actually being moved, no one can state for certain that the task was accomplished by Leedskalnin alone.[ The claim that Leedskalnin didn't use modern (post-1920s) tools is obviously true, but the mistake is in assuming that modern tools are required to move the large blocks of coral.

Ultimately—and ironically—the solution may lie in Leedskalnin's own simple explanation: that he did it using principles of weight and leverage. "I have discovered the secrets of the pyramids," he said, employing the same methods used by ancient Egyptians. If Leedskalnin was being truthful, then the mystery is solved, for the methods by which the Egyptian pyramids could be constructed are well understood (see, for example, Mark Lehner's 1997 book The Complete Pyramids).

Photos exist of large tripods, pulleys, and winches at the Coral Castle site, and several sources  (e.g., Wallace Wallington's Web site http://www.theforgottentechnology.com) demonstrate how massive weights can be moved by one or two people using simple physics. (The comparisons to Egypt's pyramids are a red herring; there are vast differences in weight, material, and complexity between the castle's coral slabs and the huge stone pyramids at Giza. Because coral is porous, large blocks appear heavier than they actually are.)


https://www.livescience.com/680-mysterio...-myth.html

You are clearly dreaming huggy
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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RE: The Tower of Babel
(August 14, 2018 at 5:59 pm)Khemikal Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 5:55 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Wow you just keep on embellishing.

It went from one witness to everybody being a witness, and from a republic truck chassis, to a custom trailer...

You asked me how a man could move the blocks 10 miles overnight with the equipment he had.  

The blocks were not moved over night, they were moved over 3 years.

Nevertheless ...the manner in which he lifted the blocks was explained to you.   The manner in which he moved the blocks, also explained to you.

You asked for a link.  You got one.

You asked for pictures.  You got them.

You asked for a film.  You got it.

You asked for citations....you got them..from the attractions own documentation.

You received additional info about the man himself that contextualized how he was familiar with the processes involved.  

Should I now have to explain axle loading vis-a-vis DOT regulations to you......because you don't understand trailers anymore than you understand doors....before you simply accept that if there's pyramid magic, this isn't a case of it in action?


http://www.leedskalnin.com/LeedskalninsWritings.html

Quote:Ed got lucky, his works have emerged as two of the world's most mysterious creations.  His book, Magnetic Current, is a detailed experimentation manual for researchers interested in learning how to become real scientists through direct experimentation and refined results interpretation methodology.     

Leedskalnin also gives us, Rock Gate, otherwise known as Coral Castle, the world's only modern megalithic structure. Shooting a rocket to and landing a man on the moon could be considered humanity's all time greatest collective accomplishment; likewise, Rock Gate represents humanity's greatest physical accomplishment by any one man throughout all of recorded history and all of eternity.


Rolleyes
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RE: The Tower of Babel
His work was very impressive. It was also done exactly as was explained and shown to you.  

Are you done?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Tower of Babel
Just popping in quickly to say that this thread is astonishing.  Absolutely astonishing.  It's as if a man is being beaten to death with coconuts while loudly insisting that coconuts don't exist.

Edit:  On reflection, it's more like taking a man who doesn't  believe that coconuts are even possible to a coconut plantation, and showing him how coconuts are grown and harvested.  You then take him down to the docks and show him the coconuts being load on a ship.  The pair of you then board the ship and accompany the coconuts to the coconut-processing plant where they are rendered into all manner of coconut-based products.

The man then looks at you and says, 'Oh, but you haven't proven that coconuts are grown, harvested, shipped and processed.  Where's your evidence?'


Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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RE: The Tower of Babel
Psh, this thread is nothing.  Consider this.....he thinks he's knocking it out of the park, as always. The lunacy of the contents of this thread are downright mundane compared to the contents of the rats nest he has between his ears.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Tower of Babel
(August 14, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You think that the entire universe and everyone involved engaging in a conspiracy to conceal the true nature of his methods....by doing it in a completely normal and explicable way on camera..film, in front of everyone.......is more believable than that a custom trailer being pulled by a tractor can haul a rock?

Somewhere, William of Occam is stropping a razor and glaring menacingly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: The Tower of Babel
I don't understand why human work, just hard sweating in the 100 degree days and 90+ degree florida nights.... for three decades... is worth so little in some people minds. The same question lends itself equally well to pyramidiots. Yeah, it's a big fuckin pile of rocks. It took alot of people alot of time. Good chance a significant number of them died on the job. Accept it for what it is? Nah, fuck that. Aliens, magic, some lazy asshole's stupid religion...that's what's really important.

I'm sure that ed would have floated the rocks into place like so many balloons if he could have. Would have saved him half of his fuckin life...but it wouldn't be all that awesome if it were the case..and it wasn't the case.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Tower of Babel
It's like when some people claim that magicians like Derren Brown really do have magical powers, despite what they themselves say. Partly because it's easier to rationalise supernatural abilities than to admit that they make careers out of fooling grown adults. The fact that 100% of them insist on doing it the hard way doesn't seem to faze anyone.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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