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Intelligent Atheists: Who/What Was Jesus?
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 (November 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Natachan Wrote: I tend to think that Jesus is a compilation of a bunch of different people. There are other Jewish figures at the time whose stories kinda mirror the Jesus myth in parts, but no contemporary mention of this particular single individual. ![[Image: samp257e288520234749.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=cdn-users2.imagechef.com%2Ftemplate%2F151201%2Fsamp257e288520234749.jpg)
I lean slightly toward there having been a man named Yeshua who did some of the nonsupernatural things attributed to him and said some of the things he's been recorded saying, but the evidence is contextual and therefore slight. Some things in the Gospels seem intended to explain away inconsistencies between the man and the theology, which wouldn't be necessary with a completely fictional character. I put the odds of him being real and some of his teachings being foundational to Christianity at around 51%. And I think he was likely a follower of John the Baptist who broke off to start his own cult.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
 (December 1, 2015 at 1:32 pm)robvalue Wrote:(November 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm)Natachan Wrote: I tend to think that Jesus is a compilation of a bunch of different people. There are other Jewish figures at the time whose stories kinda mirror the Jesus myth in parts, but no contemporary mention of this particular single individual. Is Hooked on a Feeling on there?  Quote: Some things in the Gospels seem intended to explain away inconsistencies between the man and the theology, which wouldn't be necessary with a completely fictional character. You are forgetting that there was not one xtianity until the proto-orthodox triumph in the 4th century at which time they set about stamping out all the variants. I suggest Bart Ehrman's Lost Christianities for a fuller understanding of what was really going on before the church cobbled together their bullshit story.  RE: Intelligent Atheists: Who/What Was Jesus?
December 1, 2015 at 10:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2015 at 10:42 pm by Aractus.)
If jesus was real...
He would have been a crazy delusional jewish preacher that was suffering from heat stroke and dehydration and he probably had mental issues because he was calling himself the son of god. On top of that probably did some slight of hand tricks and people thought it was magic and then other people got angry at him and you get the rest.
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Jesus was likely just a teacher of people who had a very small following while he was actually alive. After his death he probably gained a stronger following, and stories about him were exaggerated and embellished. It's probably why you see contradictions in the gospel. Some things may have even been incorrectly attributed to him. We have no real way of knowing who Jesus was.
Is Rake still trying to convince all the other Atheists to believe in real-guy-Jesus like his gullible ass does?
Why am I not surprised? To the OP: Jesus Christ (the Bible character, as written) is most likely one of 3 things: 1. A fictional character based on and influenced by other, earlier mythical figures (my favorite answer). 2. A fictional character based on a conglomeration of real preachers from Jesus's time. 3. A fictional character based on a totally real guy named Ieshua von Nazareth who did and said everything that's in the gospels (more or less), except maybe the magic, I guess, since I'm atheist and don't believe in far-fetched tales unless they're the parts of the New Testament with no magic (Rake's favorite answer). Any way you slice it, what you have there is a fictional character, even if that character is loosely based on a real guy. |
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