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Cinema ad banned; church sues
#41
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
(November 26, 2015 at 8:06 am)Mr Greene Wrote: Aractus wrote:

Okay, but what part of the ad contravenes the OFCOM regulations? As far as I'm concerned, cinema ads shouldn't be ported from TV and should be designed for the medium, and of course they'll have different regulations.

I don't really understand the opposition to the ad - I just watched it. It's the Lord's prayer, and there's nothing really objectionable or offensive in the Lord's prayer.


OFCOM scheduling restrictions 16 c;
Items of a religious nature may not include advertising.

So this ad that RSPCA (which is non-religious) has been running since 1988 (so going on 30 years) would be OK to run in the UK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdPTsNpTm1I


But if the same hymn was used to advertise a church (similar to below) it would be banned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPMA5I3-0Jw

That doesn't seem logical. But then again the UK has some weird regulations.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#42
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
So, could I advertise my film in a British church ??
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#43
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
(November 26, 2015 at 4:58 am)ignoramus Wrote: Rob, I think they prefer it the way it is.
This way, every clown can act directly as though God is giving them instructions. It's funny how everyone's instructions just happen to be identical to what they themselves wish!
Also what better way of an ego trip than to have most important job in the world ...to work for God himself!

Nutters will be nutters...
Excellent observation.
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#44
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
Any Christians want to weigh in and support us atheist scum?

Would you rather see hours of propaganda from all religions before your film, or none at all?
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#45
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
Here is the issue aractus. Sure that ad is is benign enough, but it opens the flood gates. What if next a somewhat objectable Muslim imam wants one? They can't deny him and give it too the cofe, then next a really funky cult wants an ad like say Scientology? So no and they can sue. So its better to just say no to everyone
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That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
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#46
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
(November 25, 2015 at 10:18 pm)Aractus Wrote:
(November 24, 2015 at 9:14 am)Mr Greene Wrote: It contravenes OFCOM regulations regarding religious advertising on TV, though an audio version would have been acceptable for radio broadcast. Cinemas have discretion which seems to have been the angle the CofE was aiming at but given that it directly contravenes company policy I don't see how they've got a case. I doubt individual franchises would contradict corporate policy on this one.

Okay, but what part of the ad contravenes the OFCOM regulations? As far as I'm concerned, cinema ads shouldn't be ported from TV and should be designed for the medium, and of course they'll have different regulations.

I don't really understand the opposition to the ad - I just watched it. It's the Lord's prayer, and there's nothing really objectionable or offensive in the Lord's prayer.

http://cdn.theguardian.tv/mainwebsite/20...t_desk.mp4

I think it would drive people from the cinema. I watched it on a TV programme about this issue and felt like turning over. Not because it's objectionable, but because it is mind numbingly tedious,it just seems to go on and on and on. There was an ad for scientology that played on the TV earlier this year, utter bollocks, but at least it was entertaining.



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#47
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
(November 26, 2015 at 10:15 am)vorlon13 Wrote: So, could I advertise my film in a British church ??

That's not a valid comparison. For example, a law firm might take out radio ads, but it'd be highly unlikely they're going to advertise for radio stations in their office.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#48
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
(November 26, 2015 at 5:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think it would drive people from the cinema. I watched it on a TV programme about this issue and felt like turning over. Not because it's objectionable, but because it is mind numbingly tedious,it just seems to go on and on and on. There was an ad for scientology that played on the TV earlier this year, utter bollocks, but at least it was entertaining.

But it's not going to hurt cinemas to have people walk out of the ads, go to the concession stand, and then return to the cinema.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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#49
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
(November 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm)Aractus Wrote:
(November 26, 2015 at 5:23 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I think it would drive people from the cinema. I watched it on a TV programme about this issue and felt like turning over. Not because it's objectionable, but because it is mind numbingly tedious,it just seems to go on and on and on. There was an ad for scientology that played on the TV earlier this year, utter bollocks, but at least it was entertaining.

But it's not going to hurt cinemas to have people walk out of the ads, go to the concession stand, and then return to the cinema.
I see what your saying but the thing is the I don't think they want to put up something that may put people off re-attending. At home my finger was moving towards the switch over button when it came on, I think I've been trained by years of avoiding songs of praise etc to be quick on the button when religious propaganda rears its ugly head.



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#50
RE: Cinema ad banned; church sues
It's not going to stop anyone actually going to a cinema. There are much more annoying ads than that that get played in cinemas, and cinemas here play ads for 10 minutes, then they play previews for a further 10 minutes, then they play the feature. See they already know to protect their own interests by having the previews immediately precede the feature - because otherwise if people wanted to avoid the ads (by coming in late) they'll miss the previews as well.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK

The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK


"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
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