A thread that smashes ALL abrahamic religions

[Rokkein]

Romans 3:7
Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"

Prrrft... lying for christ to make him look good. Nice going Paul
I love these types of stuff.

OP, what makes you think logic will smash anything which preys entirely on emotions.

Well.. acts17apologetics on youtube sure could need it. They sorta believe they have all the smashing evidence when it comes to belief. Which is just so wrong
But i get what you mean

Sorry for double posting. But couldn't see an edit button but.

I was reading this in greek too, literaly says lie. HAHA XD
http://biblehub.com/text/romans/3-7.htm

Edit: Also.. there are differences between datings. But Galatians seem in my view to be the oldest, while 1 Thessalonians seem to be slightly not. Although it seems they have an agreement that 1 Thessalonians is the oldest, i believe its due to more secure datings. But if lets say Galatians letter is the oldest... i found some pretty interesting stuff

Galatians 1: 6-9 (KJV)
6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

I also love how angels are evil if they say contrary to that of paul XD

PAH! XD... and Christians says that the Galatians 2 proves the nowadays authenticity of the message of salvation. This is clearly getting an idea that stories was normal at his time
And you have to believe his claims in Galatians 2 saying its what it always have said. The problem is since we dont have any eye records of the events in Jesus' life time. Lets say Paul just loves to talk

Come to think of it "NIV" is somewhat different than KJV or Greek of Galatians 2??? Doesn't really seem like he goes there just to check if his version is correct.

[CapnAwesome]

Well there you have it. I guess send this thread to ISIS and the vatican and that'll be it.

[Rokkein]

Well there you have it. I guess send this thread to ISIS and the vatican and that'll be it.

If only it was that easy
If anyone is interested where resurrection idea comes from allow me to introduce Simon of Peraea
Although some may think this is nothing new in terms of old history. But its pretty related to the jewishness in this case this guy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_of_Peraea
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants




Also.. somehow this popped out in my head. Summary in my view
2:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAMsZgf1ESg

[Fake Messiah]

There's a really good short video of James Randi discussing an archaeology book on how Nazareth never existed, nevertheless there are "real" pilgrimage sites like Joseph's carpentry shop, spot where Mary received god's cum in her uterus and of course last supper place
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxEJHO8KIXY

Really, I remember reading a brochure for trip into Holy Land and they really have some ridiculous churches like Church of Saint Peter of cock's-crow.

[robvalue]

I've found there's a really useful phrase which smashes not just abrahamic religions, but every religion. Four simple words.

"Why should I care?"

I've never had a satisfactory answer to that. I get nothing, or I get threats.

They can go on for days trying to convince me that their religion is "true", but they can't manage a coherent sentence about why I should care even if it is true. It shows the way that some people have been psychologically broken down to the point where they can't imagine not throwing themselves on the ground in front of the biggest, most impressive looking/sounding thing available.

[washed]

Romans 3:7
Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"

Prrrft... lying for christ to make him look good. Nice going Paul
I love these types of stuff.
Well.. acts17apologetics on youtube sure could need it. They sorta believe they have all the smashing evidence when it comes to belief. Which is just so wrong
But i get what you mean

Sorry for double posting. But couldn't see an edit button but.

I was reading this in greek too, literaly says lie. HAHA XD
http://biblehub.com/text/romans/3-7.htm

Hello, I don't agree with your interpretation here because it is out of context.  Paul is actually saying the exact opposite of what you're implying:

5But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) 6Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? 7Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?”8Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!

Paul is saying that although as our sin increases, Gods righteousness can be more clearly seen, anyone who thinks that they could use that as an excuse to sin will receive just condemnation. That's pretty clear in verse 8, and his complaint is that he was being slandered by people who claimed he argued that it was okay to sin so Gods grace would increase, as you are actually doing.