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so christians get this
#61
RE: so christians get this
(December 3, 2015 at 10:23 am)Drich Wrote:


Add to the above with the personal things I have shared here/witness (Messenger/Hell) success and unheard of 'luck' in business, and deliverance from health issues and addiction. all combines into undeniable personal proof of God in my life.

Which again, is offered to everyone here. Look at the account of doubting Thomas. Did Jesus shun him or did Jesus give Thomas everything he needed to establish and maintain his belief till his martyred death? Christ through the Holy Spirit is willing to give each and every one of you exactly what you need in the way of 'proof' to satasify you and only you completely. To the point where you yourself choose martyrdom over denial. Not that it's required, but the point being the strength in which you know something is true.
 
Would you mind posting a link or links to to some of the threads where you've discussed these things? I'm interested in reading about personal experiences that people find compelling enough to be considered undeniable proof of God.
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#62
RE: so christians get this
(December 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(December 2, 2015 at 12:17 am)dyresand Wrote: The idea of christianity goes against what jesus supposedly wanted. 

Mathew 5:17 enough said 

Clap Id pick up the OT if i were you.

Matt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

fulfill - bring to completion

So your point is???
God was lying when he said that the Law was forever?  You just can't trust that guy at all!
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#63
RE: so christians get this
(December 5, 2015 at 5:38 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(December 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm)alpha male Wrote: Matt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

fulfill - bring to completion

So your point is???
God was lying when he said that the Law was forever?  You just can't trust that guy at all!

This is why Matt 5:17 is sort of my favorite in the bible.
You either  call god/jesus a lair or you ignore the passage or make up some shit saying 
jesus said the OT doesn't count anymore. Either way they ignore that passage and move on from there.
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#64
RE: so christians get this
(December 5, 2015 at 5:38 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(December 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm)alpha male Wrote: Matt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

fulfill - bring to completion

So your point is???
God was lying when he said that the Law was forever?  You just can't trust that guy at all!

The law is forever, but also know the law includes the rules for attonement.

Those who have sought and been given attonement are free from the law even though it still exists. Because Christ was punished in our stead.

Those who have not sought atonement are still bound by the law of sin. Meaning they will be responsiable for their own punishment as prescribed by the law.
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#65
RE: so christians get this
(December 5, 2015 at 1:37 am)Thena323 Wrote:
(December 3, 2015 at 10:23 am)Drich Wrote:


Add to the above with the personal things I have shared here/witness (Messenger/Hell) success and unheard of 'luck' in business, and deliverance from health issues and addiction. all combines into undeniable personal proof of God in my life.

Which again, is offered to everyone here. Look at the account of doubting Thomas. Did Jesus shun him or did Jesus give Thomas everything he needed to establish and maintain his belief till his martyred death? Christ through the Holy Spirit is willing to give each and every one of you exactly what you need in the way of 'proof' to satasify you and only you completely. To the point where you yourself choose martyrdom over denial. Not that it's required, but the point being the strength in which you know something is true.
 
Would you mind posting a link or links to to some of the threads where you've discussed these things? I'm interested in reading about personal experiences that people find compelling enough to be considered undeniable proof of God.

Hell:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-15622.html
Messenger:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-13378.html
AIDS, starts at post 135:
http://atheistforums.org/thread-11671-page-14.html
Cancer:
you'll have to do a search, it was this time last year.
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#66
RE: so christians get this
(December 2, 2015 at 9:49 am)Drich Wrote:
Quote:17 
Quote:“Don’t think that I have come to destroy the Law of Moses or the teaching of the prophets. I have come not to destroy their teachings but to give full meaning to them. 18 I assure you that nothing will disappear from the law until heaven and earth are gone.
The law is still in effect. All of it. If you could be bothered to even read the summery review of the romans study I posted I point out that in chapter 3 Paul shows us it is the Law that shows us we are in sin and in need of redemption. It is by the law that all unrepentant will be judged. However it is also the law that affords us atonement and salvation. How can he say this? because 1/3 to 1/2 of the law is dedicated to ways of atoning for sin. When Chirst said he came to fulfill the Law he was talking about not only extending the do's and don'ts of the law to include thought, but to provide permanent atonement.

Quote: The law will not lose even the smallest letter or the smallest part of a letter until "It is Finished."
What was Christ's final word on the cross?
"It is Finished." Meaning the time that the law could not change was at an end.

(my bold)

So you are saying that heaven and earth are gone?  Thinking
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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#67
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(December 7, 2015 at 11:43 am)IATIA Wrote:
(December 2, 2015 at 9:49 am)Drich Wrote: The law is still in effect. All of it. If you could be bothered to even read the summery review of the romans study I posted I point out that in chapter 3 Paul shows us it is the Law that shows us we are in sin and in need of redemption. It is by the law that all unrepentant will be judged. However it is also the law that affords us atonement and salvation. How can he say this? because 1/3 to 1/2 of the law is dedicated to ways of atoning for sin. When Chirst said he came to fulfill the Law he was talking about not only extending the do's and don'ts of the law to include thought, but to provide permanent atonement.

What was Christ's final word on the cross?
"It is Finished." Meaning the time that the law could not change was at an end.

(my bold)

So you are saying that heaven and earth are gone?  Thinking

Come now, you know this is metaphorical, no? You and your simplistic ways of understanding the sacred Bible. Wink

Expect some twisted Greek translation lesson soon from the Drich, lol.
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#68
RE: so christians get this
(December 7, 2015 at 11:37 am)Drich Wrote:
(December 5, 2015 at 1:37 am)Thena323 Wrote:  



I appreciate it. Thanks.
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#69
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There's a lot of things that Christians do that would be forbidden in their Bible but they do it anyways. Mostly because it gives them power or is a way to still control the masses.
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#70
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(December 9, 2015 at 10:43 pm)godzilla_22 Wrote: There's a lot of things that Christians do that would be forbidden in their Bible but they do it anyways. Mostly because it gives them power or is a way to still control the masses.

They lie and say that's in the bible or you misinterpreted it.
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