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Why make stupid unsustainable arguments?
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 (December 11, 2015 at 11:06 am)SteveII Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 10:44 am)Evie Wrote: I don't need to refute Christianity or argue against Christianity. It is self-defeating. As I have said: The onus is on Christians to provide evidence for their God. God is merely possible like Santa Claus is possible. Until any evidence is actually provided, there's nothing worth refuting.  (December 11, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Evie Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 11:06 am)SteveII Wrote: You do like to hear yourself say that don't you. Statements like this are meant to...what? Educate me? Convince you? I get presents in my stocking at Christmas so there must be a santa, who else would put stuff in there? You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis. RE: Why make stupid unsustainable arguments?
December 11, 2015 at 1:38 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2015 at 1:42 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
Yeah well I'll admit it was a bad analogy.
There's far more evidence for Santa than God. I mean there's evidence of him right here in video form, and he's an atheist too! : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzN-uIVkfjg Good old Santa, how smart he is. Look. He's even wearing red.  (December 11, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Cato Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 1:10 pm)athrock Wrote: Who calls the Big Bang "god"? Not theists or atheists from what I've read. That would be akin to calling the the telephone the inventor instead of the invention. Precision is important here. Believers claim that God caused the Big Bang...it did not cause itself. Whoops. You're right. Please accept my apologies for having read your post too quickly. (Is there an embarrassed emoticon?) (December 11, 2015 at 1:44 pm):blush:athrock Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 1:32 pm)Cato Wrote: Precision is important here, but it is you who is lacking the attention to detail. I claimed that people call the CAUSE of the Big Bang god; a point you agree with in your last sentence. I go with 
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid. Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.  (December 11, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Cato Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 11:42 am)athrock Wrote: And it is just as POINTLESS for a skeptic to parrot "There is no evidence for God" (Since there is circumstantial evidence, at least.) than it is for the believer to chant, "God said it. I believe it. And that settles it." (No, it really doesn't settle anything.) Your dealing with another one who is to deeply invested in the bullshit to ever escape it, Cato. (December 11, 2015 at 1:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 12:17 pm)Cato Wrote: This is incredibly vapid. This is atheistforums.org. You must know this. So we have an entire site setup around a position taken regarding a very specific question: does god exist. Now you come along to inform us that making the observation that there is no evidence for god is 'POINTLESS'. Not only is it not pointless, it is THE fucking point. And which bullshit is that, Minimalist? I call out the believers for their stupidity just as quickly as I do the skeptics for theirs. There just aren't as many opportunities for the former in this forum for obvious reasons.  (December 11, 2015 at 1:53 pm)athrock Wrote:(December 11, 2015 at 1:49 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Your dealing with another one who is to deeply invested in the bullshit to ever escape it, Cato. Oh just you wait, Athrock. They'll be along shortly! 
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
You could always try calling yourself out athrock
RE: Why make stupid unsustainable arguments?
December 11, 2015 at 3:48 pm
(This post was last modified: December 11, 2015 at 4:12 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 11, 2015 at 11:42 am)athrock Wrote: I agree, and you've echoed the main point of the OP very nicely, I think. Stupid arguments on both sides are pointless. And it is just as POINTLESS for a skeptic to parrot "There is no evidence for God" (Since there is circumstantial evidence, at least.) We hear this ground leveling bullshit a'plenty......pretty sure you're going to fail to provide what you've -just- claimed to possess. Let's see some of that evidence. Surely, if it doesn't materialize..then there is nothing pointless or difficult about concluding that there is none. I don't have any evidence, I've never seen any evidence.....no one has ever provided me with evidence...and the people who claim to have it (you've decided to include yourself in that lot, hilariously) routinely fail to provide in the most fantastic manner imaginable. Evidence must be..wait for it..evident. If "evidence" is not evident..then it isn't evidence, end of story. Let's switch the subject, to make it less contentious. Someone claims to have a marble. I;ve never seen a marble, I don't possess a marble. Fine, I say, lets see this "marble". Turns out the claimant can't actually show you the marble. Plenty of other people believe in marbles, that they have marbles....you ask them, none of them are any better at demonstrating this "marble" business than the first guy. What you notice, in all of this marble brewhaha..is that different people who all claim to have marbles describe different things. Someone comes along and says they have evidence of marbles...but can't actually provide that evidence...... How long are you going to deal with this bullshit before you conclude that marbles are fantasy, or worse..that people are fucking with you, being deliberately deceitful in their claims? The amusing bit, imo..is that it doesn't actually matter whether or not there really are marbles (or a god) in this context. Either way, the statement, "there is no evidence for marbles/god" is justified just as equally and rationally.
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