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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 1:04 am
(December 21, 2015 at 12:35 am)Kaiser Wrote: Except The Empire was literally and enthusiastically destroying planets simply to create fear to keep the local systems in line. Fear of this battlestation. The Republic had degenerated into anarchy. The Empire was trying to restore law and order. How could the Empire muster enough troops and arms to occupy entire worlds spread throughout the galaxy? Where would it get the money and logistics to do such a thing? It built the DeathStar as the ultimate weapon to destroy the main rebel planet in the hope that it would show the other worlds that they should stop being rabble rousers. The intent was to actually save lives. It's nothing that the US hasn't done. At this very second some politicians want to vaporize the Middle East.
When Jesus returns he inflicts all kinds of disasters on humanity but we don't surrender. We continue to fight. Eventually he blows the world up because we won't submit. He could have left us in peace instead of being an ass about it.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 8:37 am
The Republic was only in turmoil because the Dark Lord of the Sith had been pulling the strings and manipulating both sides for years, with the ultimate goal of establishing a new Sith Empire, with him exclusively in charge.
He also stamped out the last shred of democracy by dissolved the Imperial Senate and handing direct control to regional governors. His regime most likely murdered trillions to maintain its fascist rule. If you think the Republic /Rebels were the real bad guys, then I politely suggest you isolate yourself from society.
Fuck sake man, why did you trigger me off when I'm seeing Star Wars this week? 
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 9:08 am
(December 21, 2015 at 8:37 am)Kaiser Wrote: The Republic was only in turmoil because the Dark Lord of the Sith had been pulling the strings and manipulating both sides for years, with the ultimate goal of establishing a new Sith Empire, with him exclusively in charge.
He also stamped out the last shred of democracy by dissolved the Imperial Senate and handing direct control to regional governors. His regime most likely murdered trillions to maintain its fascist rule. If you think the Republic /Rebels were the real bad guys, then I politely suggest you isolate yourself from society.
Fuck sake man, why did you trigger me off when I'm seeing Star Wars this week?
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 9:25 am
(December 14, 2015 at 6:05 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Dear friends,
I have had a sad thought about my savior today.
I realize He is the word, He is the truth (Not Muhammad! Got it?!?!)
That being said, I realized he is much different from most of the Gods of history.
Take the Greek/Roman Gods for example. They weren't nice entities. But unlike Jesus, they doled out one's lot in the afterlife based upon their conduct on earth. Zeus never sent anyone to Hades for not believing in him. Jesus will do just that.
There doesn't seem to be "justice" in terms of Hell. Its basically, no matter what everyone deserves to be burned in tortured forever. It's just certain people with magic coupons (Christians) can escape that fate.
I realized... Jesus is the ONLY God who operates in this fashion.Not Thor, Not Shiva, Not Quezalcoatl. Only Jesus
It seems Jesus will barely take pity on those who died in the holocaust. As terrible as their suffering was in Aushwitz, it would be nothing compared to their suffering for rejecting Jesus. The Christian camp guards on the other hand... will be a-ok, as long as they believed in Jesus 
I am so depressed.. it almost makes me think you dark creatures have at least a point, though I will talk and pray about this issue with my pastor.
Oh please, you're breaking my heart!
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 11:26 am
(December 14, 2015 at 6:05 pm)TrueChristian Wrote: Dear friends,
I have had a sad thought about my savior today.
I realize He is the word, He is the truth (Not Muhammad! Got it?!?!)
That being said, I realized he is much different from most of the Gods of history.
Take the Greek/Roman Gods for example. They weren't nice entities. But unlike Jesus, they doled out one's lot in the afterlife based upon their conduct on earth. Zeus never sent anyone to Hades for not believing in him. Jesus will do just that.
There doesn't seem to be "justice" in terms of Hell. Its basically, no matter what everyone deserves to be burned in tortured forever. It's just certain people with magic coupons (Christians) can escape that fate.
I realized... Jesus is the ONLY God who operates in this fashion.Not Thor, Not Shiva, Not Quezalcoatl. Only Jesus
It seems Jesus will barely take pity on those who died in the holocaust. As terrible as their suffering was in Aushwitz, it would be nothing compared to their suffering for rejecting Jesus. The Christian camp guards on the other hand... will be a-ok, as long as they believed in Jesus
I am so depressed.. it almost makes me think you dark creatures have at least a point, though I will talk and pray about this issue with my pastor. Crist is a way of being that is attainable through adherence of the teachings and example and sacrifice put forth by Jesus the Christ. It is absolutely attainable for every single soul.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 11:28 am
(December 14, 2015 at 6:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Zeus never sent anyone to Hades for not believing in him. Jesus will do just that.
Well fuck jesus then. People often times don't understand that the word "believe" in the scripture means to adhere to whole heartedly in All you do without waver.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 11:35 am
(December 21, 2015 at 11:28 am)popsthebuilder Wrote: (December 14, 2015 at 6:18 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Well fuck jesus then. People often times don't understand that the word "believe" in the scripture means to adhere to whole heartedly in All you do without waver.
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WTF does that even mean?
Belief in the unprovable, "faith" means "to adhere to whole heartedly in all you do without waver" - - in other words, if the preacher tells you the world is flat and your child's teddy bear can be possessed by demons and kill her in the night (this was actually a real thing in the late 1960's), you'd better believe it. Anyone who disagrees with you is an emissary of Satan who is trying to tempt you into doubting god, and going to hell.
Faith is claiming to know something you CANNOT know, and holding on to that belief in spite of evidence that disproves that belief.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 11:41 am
(December 16, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I thought you clowns claimed to have read this shit?
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matt 25
So let me guess....your precious KJV fucked up the word "everlasting" and if you write it on a piece of paper and stand in front of a mirror and shove it up your own ass it does not mean that? That is in reference to those who know fully of what is expected of them yet neglect their duty in favor of the things of this world, namely material things and power. It is equal to utter blasphemy of the holy spirit and the sins perpetrated by the fallen angels that are the cause of all earthly pain.
It has nothing to do with the ignorant who will be weighed by there actions justly and attain some station with below and of GOD.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 11:42 am
(December 16, 2015 at 8:04 pm)Lek Wrote: (December 16, 2015 at 7:52 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I thought you clowns claimed to have read this shit?
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matt 25
So let me guess....your precious KJV fucked up the word "everlasting" and if you write it on a piece of paper and stand in front of a mirror and shove it up your own ass it does not mean that?
Well, you are correct that the Greek word doesn't directly translate into "everlasting", but more closely "for the age". In other words, it could mean a limited time, which seems to be better supported by scripture. Hell is to be for ten thousand years from the time before the flood.
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RE: Sad thought about Jesus.
December 21, 2015 at 11:46 am
(December 17, 2015 at 3:29 am)orangebox21 Wrote: (December 16, 2015 at 9:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
As usual you ignored what was said. Lek appealed to the Greek. Your counterargument was to show different English translations. Engage the actual argument......
The same Greek word, aiōnion, is used for both the 'punishment' and the 'life.' So it would follow that if hell's punishment was limited in duration then heaven's life would also be limited in duration.
Greek text
Definition of aionion That is true and confirmed in all monotheistic scripture I have read.
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