For those into Hip Hop / Rap

[Brian37]

I've always enjoyed Hip Hop and rap, I just think people confuse mainstream radio rap with all rap music ever produced. Firstly, there's a difference between hip hop and rap - Hip hop as a whole is a cultural movements with strong roots, causes and social consequences - Rap is simply a style of music literally translated to Rhythm and poetry. There's different types of rap music. There's old school, golden era, east and west coast, commercial and undergound - There's rap songs where you talk about bitches, money and drugs, and there's songs where you can directly state how much you hate oppressive systems in society.

Personally, I think hip hop is an unconventional music genre as much as rock - Both have always been associated with social transgression and rule breaking, and right now both enjoy mainstream radio playing and commercialization (whether I like the mainstream music or not). You cannot lump one entire musical genre together. You can't compare Guru with 50 cent and Eric B Rakim with Soulja boy and expect to get away with it.

Brian, I suggest checking out Immortal Technique, Very underground artist.

Just watched this.......... Now while I don't completely agree with the lyrics, it does speak to how trapped and marginalized blacks are in this country. FUCKING INTENSE! I like the clip where they show Rice and call her a sellout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igt-jW4e8ts

[Brian37]

Like this one too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVL4IAKA9Lc

[Brian37]

Ouch, I should say the Che part I don't like.

[Dystopia]

This is arguably my favourite rap song of all time. It is intense, the first 2 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3hrtp1T84

[Dystopia]

Ouch, I should say the Che part I don't like.

Those kind of references are normal in underground anti-system artists. Che Guevara is a dual figure, he is a hero for some and a villain to others. I never cared much for him, but some of my friends like him - It's mostly a symbol against the establishment I think. Lenin was a dictator, but he was also grounded on firm principles against the oppressive system at the time and knew how religion was used to control masses. - Again, a dual figure. If we think about it, there isn't an enormous difference on liking Che Guevara and any American president, considering most continue to allow invasions and basically "genocide" of indigenous people of the middle east and other places.

[Brian37]

This is arguably my favourite rap song of all time. It is intense, the first 2 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH3hrtp1T84

FUCK YEA! "Take the bullets out my 9"

Would be awesome if the world's religions and the idiot religious people who run them could think like that.

[Regina]

Hip-Hop is kind of hit and miss with me. I love tracks that have a sick beat behind them and when the rapper has really good flow. I don't care much about wether the lyrics are super deep or not, as long as they make sense. What I hate are the Lil Waynes and the (sometimes) Nicki Minajes who just belch out incoherent noises from their mouths over a pretty flat non-existent beat.

Love me some Kanye West and Drake, always. But I guess that's just the mainstream shit most real hip-hop fans find basic lmao

[Dystopia]

Brian I think you will like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v0hk4FGTDU

[Eseka]

Mos Def  I don't even care that he thinks the moon landing was a hoax. Edit: I suppose out of respect I should call him Yasiin Bey now. Hard habit to get into.

I am pleased to see a rap thread.

I'll be back.