Guys: Would you ever rape and murder a girl?

[Whateverist]

Does this simply make me a sociopath?

Yes and it raises the question whether sociopathy isn't far more prevalent than we would have thought, providing a rationale for Christianity to allow all you sociopaths to exist in a community of humans.

[Whateverist]

But what  reason is there to have the empathy not  to rape and murder a girl?

There isn't any reason that isn't contingent upon your normalcy as a human being.  As others have already told you, if you're a sociopath we'd like to see you remain a xtian or, better, have yourself committed.

[Whateverist]

What if someone doesn't take it as a moral goal to cause the most joy and happiness in the world? Why does it matter? There about 8 billion people on this planet. What is one life? Nothing in the cosmic sense.

No one needs to accept this prescriptive twist on morality to act morally. Most people are already wired to take what other people are feeling into account. There is no need for them to then make it their mission to make everyone as happy as possible. That is the sort of perversion of morality which religion often adds. Morality as actually practiced and experienced by the great majority of people involves no such moral marching orders.

[Whateverist]

Are subjective feelings valid?

Are you aware of any feelings which are not subjective?  Validity does not apply.  That doesn't mean all subjective feelings should be acted upon.  If you're up to the challenge, being a human being means getting to decide such things.  You can settle for being a good church boy if you find that necessary to keep your malevolent tendencies in check.

[Bard A Madsen]

What is extremely scary is that I have experienced this in real life, this is what some religious people *really think* if they (& we are) could be without a God leash !  I kid you not !  It is as if they are ready to go if not suppressed.  I have no doubt that  *IF* they all understood atheism all at once that this silly zombie apocalypse idea would become reality from the guessing 1/3 that would go for it.  There's a good movie, sorta like the opposite of ahhh....  ....  Left Behind !  Wherein the religious are really convinced they have free will and act on all those evil thoughts they have been harboring ALL this time !

[Whateverist]

First Dolphinetics, now trollopath. Soon the dictionary will be mine...

I wonder, as an administrator, whether you couldn't insert "trollopath" to this idiot's heading as his beliefs?  Think of it as a warning for all the insincere obvious trolling.  If he refrains from the offending behavior for some number of days, he can get it removed.

[God of Mr. Hanky]

But what  reason is there to have the empathy not  to rape and murder a girl?

There isn't any reason that isn't contingent upon your normalcy as a human being.  As others have already told you, if you're a sociopath we'd like to see you remain a xtian or, better, have yourself committed.

He needs to be in some sort of program, even if it's just frequent church attendance. The worst of the sociopaths are those who go their own ways so they can feed their delusions until they believe that whatever they feel inclined to do is their god's will. That's a more dangerous sociopath than one who's atheist!

[Reforged]

Heres a better question;
Guys, if you thought rape and murder were ok would you publicly broadcast those views?
Now I know its a difficult question so by all means take your time answering it.

[Aroura]

Heres a better question;
Guys, if you thought rape and murder were ok would you publicly broadcast those views?
Now I know its a difficult question so by all means take your time answering it.

Good question.

I think the answer would be no, because it isn't socially acceptable so I would hide it.  The same way women who are Christians hide their abortions, because they believe they have sinned.  Being a Christian would not prevent a rapist or murderer from doing either of those things, any more than it prevents Christians from getting abortions. 

This means the OP is absolutely a troll or Poe, because true sociopaths hide that from the world. They don't get on internet forums and tell people about it.  (Do they?  Seems like there have been a few cases of people coming onto reddit and places like that and bragging about wanting to kill people right before they do it).  Scary world, seriously.

But I think most true sociopaths become adept at mimicking empathy, because that is what they see others do, and they want to blend in and hide. It also makes it clear that remaining a Christian isn't stopping anyone from doing things they think or know are immoral.

[Reforged]

Heres a better question;
Guys, if you thought rape and murder were ok would you publicly broadcast those views?
Now I know its a difficult question so by all means take your time answering it.

Good question.

I think the answer would be no, because it isn't socially acceptable so I would hide it.  The same way women who are Christians hide their abortions, because they believe they have sinned.  Being a Christian would not prevent a rapist or murderer from doing either of those things, any more than it prevents Christians from getting abortions. 

This means the OP is absolutely a troll or Poe, because true sociopaths hide that from the world. They don't get on internet forums and tell people about it.  (Do they?  Seems like there have been a few cases of people coming onto reddit and places like that and bragging about wanting to kill people right before they do it).  Scary world, seriously.

But I think most true sociopaths become adept at mimicking empathy, because that is what they see others do, and they want to blend in and hide. It also makes it clear that remaining a Christian isn't stopping anyone from doing things they think or know are immoral.

I've known sociopaths. They don't just mimic empathy, they wield it like a weapon. They know what you want to see, what response you expect and how to react in a way that will engineer the result they want. In a world of cattle they are its predators. Its why so many occupy positions of power, power is what rules their world. The acquisition of power, the retention of power, the use of power. Every move we make as humans is a power play whether we realize it or not. The only difference between us and sociopaths is that sociopaths lack the moral and emotional baggage to prevent them seeing and embodying this simple principle.
They use mind games, manipulation, intimidation, domination and humiliation to achieve their ends but always under the mask of piety and righteousness. 
These methods are nothing if not effective.