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two scientific miracles puzzled me?
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two scientific miracles puzzled me?
hi everyone, 
muslims claim that there are many scientific miracles in the quran, i found that the most of them are false, but there are two miracles that i didn't found any proof that they are false:
the first is the the aya 48 of the surat 30 that said:
"It is Allah who sends the winds, and they raise the clouds."
the scientist of meteorology until 19th century didn't know that the winds have a role in the raising of clouds, so how mohamed before 1400 years knew that?


the second, mohamed said that: 
"rainfall in one year is no less (in amount) than that falling in another year, it is only allah distributes the rain"
the science proved in our days that 505000 cubic kilometres of water falls as precipitation each year.
how mohamed before 1400 years knew that ?

thank you and i'm sorry if my english is not good.
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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
1) Observation.
2) Observation.

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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
(December 20, 2015 at 8:27 pm)truth search Wrote: the second, mohamed said that: 
"rainfall in one year is no less (in amount) than that falling in another year, it is only allah distributes the rain"
the science proved in our days that 505000 cubic kilometres of water falls as precipitation each year.
how mohamed before 1400 years knew that ?

Had the crayon stated specifically that "505000 cubic kilometres of water falls as precipitation each year", my interest might be piqued.
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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
How is that second even supposed to be a miracle? Given your obsession with it, I'm guessing you're a stealth Muslim.
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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
So the wind is capable of moving clouds, and certain areas get about the same amount of rain every year. Why is this impressive?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
(December 20, 2015 at 8:27 pm)truth search Wrote: hi everyone, 
muslims claim that there are many scientific miracles in the quran, i found that the most of them are false, but there are two miracles that i didn't found any proof that they are false:
the first is the the aya 48 of the surat 30 that said:
"It is Allah who sends the winds, and they raise the clouds."
the scientist of meteorology until 19th century didn't know that the winds have a role in the raising of clouds, so how mohamed before 1400 years knew that?


the second, mohamed said that: 
"rainfall in one year is no less (in amount) than that falling in another year, it is only allah distributes the rain"
the science proved in our days that 505000 cubic kilometres of water falls as precipitation each year.
how mohamed before 1400 years knew that ?

thank you and i'm sorry if my english is not good.

Maybe you're aware that the Middle East inherited much of the wealth of the fallen Roman Empire, before this itself was destroyed by invasions of barbarian hordes and religious fundamentalism? Well, that's what happened. Mohammad, for all his dickish traits, was well-travelled and educated before he presented his book to his home regioin, and the Arabs there weren't really stupid either. Before the collapse of the Byzantine Empire, which was soon followed by fundamentalism and Crusades, Muslims studied with people of other religious and non-religious persuasions in Alexandria, where the largest scientific library in the world existed. Too bad that one got destroyed, and with all the knowledge it contained! When that happened, the world got quite a bit dumber for a long, long time.
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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
I fail to see how these can be considered miracles in any fashion. Tell me exactly how these are miracles?
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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
Clouds can be moved by wind, and a given region will generally receive similar amounts of average rainfall from year to year. This is what qualifies as a miracle nowadays? Aye yie yie... what a sorry state indeed.
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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
And don't forget. There will be wars, and rumors of wars. Score 1 for the bible.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."

10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: two scientific miracles puzzled me?
Welcome firstly.
If you don't believe in the rest of the so called miracles, how can you get hung up on these 2 insignificant issues?

I say poe.
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Know God, Know fear.
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