two scientific miracles puzzled me?

[Iroscato]

If these are classed as scientific miracles, then the Quran is aiming pretty bloody low in its efforts to impress.

[paulpablo]

hi everyone, 
muslims claim that there are many scientific miracles in the quran, i found that the most of them are false, but there are two miracles that i didn't found any proof that they are false:
the first is the the aya 48 of the surat 30 that said:
"It is Allah who sends the winds, and they raise the clouds."
the scientist of meteorology until 19th century didn't know that the winds have a role in the raising of clouds, so how mohamed before 1400 years knew that?


the second, mohamed said that: 
"rainfall in one year is no less (in amount) than that falling in another year, it is only allah distributes the rain"
the science proved in our days that 505000 cubic kilometres of water falls as precipitation each year.
how mohamed before 1400 years knew that ?

thank you and i'm sorry if my english is not good.

The second one is wrong.  The earth has changed a lot in the billions of years of it's existence.  There's been ice ages, changes in the suns brightness in relation to the earth.  The formation of oceans on the earth was due enormous amounts of rainfall after the atmosphere began to cool and water could actually exist on earth.  It also says on Wikipedia that rain precipitation is changing globally due to global warming.

2nd point.  There is no scientific proof that I have found that exactly 505000 cubic kilometres of water falls each year.  I've seen on Wikipedia and other sites it says that is an approximate amount  .  The science wouldn't say it was approximate if it was proof that exactly that much falls.  Plus it's approximately dealing with cubic kilometres which isn't small amounts.  And as I said in my previous point I'm nearly certain this is since the existence of weather records or at least since humans have inhabited the Earth which is a miniscule portion of the entire earths history.

3rd point.  It doesn't say which rain, where, or what type of rain.  The science hypothesizes that some planets may have iron rain, some neon rain.  (neon rain or iron rain would be such a fucking cool name for a band, just a thought.)

[Minimalist]

It is Allah who sends the winds.

Um, your premise is bullshit.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/win...auses-wind

To understand what makes the wind blow, we first need to understand what atmospheric pressure is. Pressure at the earth's surface is a measure of the 'weight' of air pressing down on it. The greater the mass of air above us, the higher the pressure we feel, and vice-versa. The importance of this is that air at the surface will want to move from high to low pressure to equalise the difference, which is what we know as wind.

The wind has nothing to do with fucking allah.

[Cyberman]

And don't forget. There will be wars, and rumors of wars. Score 1 for the bible.

There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of... raffia work base... that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer; and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril...

[Chad32]

And don't forget. There will be wars, and rumors of wars. Score 1 for the bible.

There shall, in that time, be rumours of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of... raffia work base... that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer; and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril...

I think I saw something that was in the ballpark of most of the things you said! Your wisdom shall not be denied!

[Minimalist]

The FSM beats all this stuff to shit.

In AD 26 (Pastafarian Year 101), at the ripe old age of 123, after having completed directing the building of Hanuwumdra and having composed over 500 hymns and prayers since the burning of the Lasagne, Ragu died, promising on his deathbed that "a Chosen Linguini shall come... indeed, he is coming, very soon... and the noodly appendage of the Flying Spaghetti Monster will guide him always... and you shall know him when he comes... and his name shall be--"

At that moment, Ragu died, leaving his prophecy unfinished. To this day, most sects of Pastafarianism await the time of this Chosen Linguini, hoping they will know him when he comes.

And bringeth the sacred clam sauce, white or red for the FSM doth not discriminate!

[Edwardo Piet]

[Minimalist]

[SteelCurtain]

[Homeless Nutter]

hi everyone, 
muslims claim that there are many scientific miracles in the quran, i found that the most of them are false, but there are two miracles that i didn't found any proof that they are false:[...]

So you're impressed by two statements, that happened to be somewhat close to the truth. How many "scientific miracles" did you find that turned out to be bullsh*t? How is it possible that Muhammad got 2 answers vaguely right and a whole lot of them completely wrong? It's vey simple - he was guessing. Even an ignorant, illiterate, violent idiot will get something right, if he makes up enough sh*t.