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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 15, 2016 at 1:00 pm
That bronze age god didn't know any more than they did. Got his psychopathic ass kicked when people started using iron.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 15, 2016 at 11:53 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 11:16 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: I don’t think too many gay men will agree that what they do doesn’t count as sex. Or will we have a double standard for heterosexuals?
Of course it's sex.
My comment was tongue and cheek...how a Good Christian Gal can rationalize "gettin' it in".
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 16, 2016 at 6:12 am
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Good point about the rag.
Why couldn't God just say "virgin" or "not virgin"? Considering he's right there, watching everyone all the time, he could at least make himself useful.
He could even say, "What the fuck is wrong with you people? This isn't the morality I want! Start behaving properly!"
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 16, 2016 at 3:02 pm
(January 15, 2016 at 11:53 pm)Thena323 Wrote: (January 15, 2016 at 11:16 am)Rhondazvous Wrote: I don’t think too many gay men will agree that what they do doesn’t count as sex. Or will we have a double standard for heterosexuals?
Of course it's sex.
My comment was tongue and cheek...how a Good Christian Gal can rationalize "gettin' it in".
Get it in there somewhere. Anywhere. Just get it the fuck in. 
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 16, 2016 at 3:07 pm
(January 16, 2016 at 6:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Good point about the rag.
Why couldn't God just say "virgin" or "not virgin"? Considering he's right there, watching everyone all the time, he could at least make himself useful.
He could even say, "What the fuck is wrong with you people? This isn't the morality I want! Start behaving properly!"
Maybe what he sees leaves him speechless. Men don't do a lot of talking when they're in sex mode.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 18, 2016 at 1:20 pm
(January 13, 2016 at 9:02 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I’ve not found anything. Zip. Zero. Nada. Apparently you don't know what's included under fornication.
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 18, 2016 at 2:55 pm
Fornication is bad, but polygamy is fine. If you have a lot of concubines, that's ok in God's eyes. But you need to be a man. Women not allowed more than one man.
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 18, 2016 at 3:37 pm
(January 18, 2016 at 2:55 pm)Irrational Wrote: Fornication is bad, but polygamy is fine. If you have a lot of concubines, that's ok in God's eyes. But you need to be a man. Women not allowed more than one man.
300 wives. 700 concubines. All that PMS! No wonder King David was a little crazy.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 25, 2016 at 7:06 am
(This post was last modified: January 25, 2016 at 7:14 am by athrock.)
(January 13, 2016 at 9:02 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: I’ve not found anything. Zip. Zero. Nada. So from where do Christians get this idea that no premarital sex is a moral absolute?
Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the polluted, as for murderers, fornicators, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their lot shall be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 22:15
Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and fornicators and murderers and idolaters, and every one who loves and practices falsehood.
And now a question for you: Where does the Bible teach that the Bible Alone is the sole rule of faith for the believer? If no verse saying this can be found, if the Bible itself does not teach this, then where do YOU get this idea that everything that is binding upon the consciences of Christians must be found in the Bible?
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RE: What the Bible Does NOT Say About Premarital Sex
January 25, 2016 at 2:11 pm
You're reading a lot into her post that she didn't say. The bible doesn't say anything about premarital sex. So she wants to know where it comes from. Why do you avoid the question?
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