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The ONLY true christian
#11
RE: The ONLY true christian
Cross out everything in the bible.

Replace with "Don't be a prick".

Job done.
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#12
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#13
RE: The ONLY true christian
Nice!

I'm quite happy being friends with anyone as long as they're not causing harm or preaching shit at me.
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#14
RE: The ONLY true christian
(January 25, 2016 at 7:39 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(January 25, 2016 at 4:48 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:  Only one person has ever been identified as a true Christian.  Onesimus! 

Philemon 1:10-16 (MSG) = https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=MSG

Here we go again, using bastardized versions of the Bible whenever it suits your agenda.

The word "christian" has been added to that version of the Bible, as it doesn't exist in the KJV of the Bible.

Quote:Philemon 15-16 The Message (MSG)
15 Maybe it’s all for the best that you lost him for a while. You’re getting him back now for good—
16 and no mere slave this time, but a true Christian brother! That’s what he was to me—he’ll be even more than that to you.


Quote:Philemon 15-16 King James Version (KJV)
15 For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest receive him for ever;
16 Not now as a servant, but above a servant, a brother beloved, specially to me, but how much more unto thee, both in the flesh, and in the Lord?

Also notice how the underlined portion in the KJV is left out of the MSV version altogether.

Quote:Revelation 22 King James Version (KJV)
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

I was also raised to believe that the only "real" Bible was the KJV.  
Of course, the KJV has a lot of differences with earlier sources as well.  http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtex...sinai.html  
The Sinai Bible was created in the 4th century, and may have been the 1st true book. (bound as a codex, instead of a scroll)  
It is written in beautiful, readable Greek, and is prized for being the oldest complete copy of the New Testament.  -- If, by complete,
one means that it contains all of the known current books of the New Testament.  It actually contains two books that are not now included.
It also does not include any resurrection stories.

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I'm always amazed that people can claim that an "authentic" Bible exists at all.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#15
RE: The ONLY true christian
(January 25, 2016 at 10:09 am)robvalue Wrote: Cross out everything in the bible.

Replace with "Don't be a prick".

Job done.

That's just it isn't it? Everyone's a prick, that's just human nature. we've all done something "prickish" at one point, and if you say you haven't.... you're being a prick.

There is a saying that "absolute power corrupts absolutely". That is inaccurate, absolute power doesn't corrupt, absolute power frees you from consequences so that the corruption (which was always there) is made manifest.

Being corrupt with no power gets your ass beat, so we act accordingly.
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#16
RE: The ONLY true christian
(January 25, 2016 at 8:26 am)Huggy74 Wrote:
(January 25, 2016 at 8:07 am)ignoramus Wrote: Huggy, everyone out of jail uses a bastardised version of the bible.
How else can it work.

Society, morality and the laws have progressed in the last 2000 years.

Love hasn't progressed....

Quote:Mark 12
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

If everyone loved their fellow man, we'd live in an utopia, as there would be no need for laws.
Did you know that your verse came verbatim from the Old Testament?

The Old Testament Israelites/Hebrews/Jews were bigots.  They didn't have Gentile neighbors and they certainly didn't love them.
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RE: The ONLY true christian
(January 25, 2016 at 11:04 am)drfuzzy Wrote:
(January 25, 2016 at 7:39 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Here we go again, using bastardized versions of the Bible whenever it suits your agenda.

The word "christian" has been added to that version of the Bible, as it doesn't exist in the KJV of the Bible.




Also notice how the underlined portion in the KJV is left out of the MSV version altogether.

I was also raised to believe that the only "real" Bible was the KJV.  
Of course, the KJV has a lot of differences with earlier sources as well.  http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtex...sinai.html  
The Sinai Bible was created in the 4th century, and may have been the 1st true book. (bound as a codex, instead of a scroll)  
It is written in beautiful, readable Greek, and is prized for being the oldest complete copy of the New Testament.  -- If, by complete,
one means that it contains all of the known current books of the New Testament.  It actually contains two books that are not now included.
It also does not include any resurrection stories.

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I'm always amazed that people can claim that an "authentic" Bible exists at all.
That looks like a fake.  Isn't it written in modern Greek?
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#18
RE: The ONLY true christian
(January 26, 2016 at 2:59 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(January 25, 2016 at 11:04 am)drfuzzy Wrote: I was also raised to believe that the only "real" Bible was the KJV.  
Of course, the KJV has a lot of differences with earlier sources as well.  http://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/sacredtex...sinai.html  
The Sinai Bible was created in the 4th century, and may have been the 1st true book. (bound as a codex, instead of a scroll)  
It is written in beautiful, readable Greek, and is prized for being the oldest complete copy of the New Testament.  -- If, by complete,
one means that it contains all of the known current books of the New Testament.  It actually contains two books that are not now included.
It also does not include any resurrection stories.

[Image: 07b4a87164bcbe8f01f982ad0593f65d.jpg]

I'm always amazed that people can claim that an "authentic" Bible exists at all.
That looks like a fake.  Isn't it written in modern Greek?

Apparently it's legit - - the "New Testament" is written in Greek vernacular of the period - - something referred to as "koine".  The "Old Testament" (Septuagint) is an older form . . .    here is the Codex Sinaiticus website: http://codexsinaiticus.org/en/codex/   I'd be interested to know what you think.  My interest is in its age, and the differences with our version.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein
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#19
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The term "Christian" is not one we can accurately give ourselves. It is left to Jesus to judge who is and is not a follower.
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#20
RE: The ONLY true christian
Everybody praise

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I think I'll post this regularly! hehe
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.
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