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By that logic, black people shouldn't have had any children, because their children would only face intolerance and hatred in the 1960's. It's fucking bullshit, and it's fucking stupid.
It's like how people want to stop gays and lesbians from adopting because "Kids will make fun of them!" GUESS THE FUCK WHAT! Kids are fucking assholes. They'll make fun of people for all sorts of reasons. THAT is the behavior that should be unacceptable. Not gays and lesbians adopting, and not interracial marriages.
Stupid racist cunts can shut the fuck up about "THINK OF THE KIDS!" Because they are't thinking of the kids one damn bit (unless they're Catholic, in which case they're thinking of how to fuck them)
February 22, 2016 at 3:14 pm (This post was last modified: February 22, 2016 at 3:19 pm by Athene.)
(February 22, 2016 at 10:39 am)Drich Wrote:
Wow.. Just wow...
You people are really self righteous douche bags, who don't know nor don't care how the real world works. That my frail and fragile little 'precious' is because you have been protected your whole life by the shield and sense of belonging/community you get from belonging to a race of people. The very thing that one takes away from their kids (When they do not favor/look like one race more strongly than the other) when they decide to marry someone of a different race. So again I ask what happens to the child when he is challenged about his race? This kid has to be super strong and secure on his own background because he is indeed completely independent/on his own. Like I said before their won't be a larger group of his particular mix coming to save him if a bunch of others of another race is beating him up. No one can stand up and point to thousands of years of pride and heritage.
So where does this strength HAVE to Come From?? his selfish parents! [hide]The Parents will be the only ones in a position to give this kid all the tools he will need to meet the challenges of all the people I pointed to that you did not want to answer in post 71: [Hide]
So... the rest of the world you mean? or is this more of the white guilt i was talking about in the other posts? Again, what if I weren't white? What if I were American Indian looking to preserve what's left of my culture? what if in order to do that i and other of my tribe feel a need to close ranks and expel all outside influences?
Are you saying American Indians who think this way are "moron assholes just taking up your oxygen??" If so what should 'we' do with them? Or again does your philosophy only apply to white people?
What if I were a black woman who does not agree with your white grandaughter 'stealing one of our good black men?' Is she then also an asshole moron who is just breathing up all your oxygen? If so What should be done with her and people like her?
In essence what is wrong with people of any given race (especially if they are in the minority) who want to preserve their heritage, if in fact it does not include those of different races?
The Parents Have to be able to Answer ALL of the Questions and challenges like the ones I provided and many many more. And what's more they have to find a balance between those who rightfully balance honor and racial tradition like the American Indian or the Black woman I mentioned, yet help their kids find the self worth they need to survive. A Parent can not do this if all the can think about is different color 'sugar.' Or better yet looking to be offended when someone stares a 1/2 second longer than they should.
Why?
Because If you as an adult can not answer these questions then what hope does your kid have? Do you really think pouting, and posting a willie wonka youtube video will help a halvie/mixed kid fend off anyone of those people? Do you think he will be able to develop the where with all to come up with a personal philosphy that will allow him to live in a world that demands these answers, and yet some how still maintain his own self worth??? Will he be able to understand the world not only has the right to ask those questions, I will also favor or protect those who do? What does that mean for this kid, if the parents can not help him or her?
THAT My Self righteous Douche bag is what I mean by Selfish! I don't know one mixed person that I have ever spoken with who has had any preparation to deal with the demands the world will make on them. Why? Because again interracial couple seldom think of anyone other than themselves, and even then not far enough down the road to help themselves and not have their marriages self destruct let alone give their kids all they need to deal with the world they will have to live in.
Me calling interracial couples selfish is a goad or test to see how they will respond. are they mature enough to meet a challenge or will they run from it or simply lash back? To meet the challenge is to not only turn the other cheek but it is also to phrase a response that allows one to not only preserve the racial identity of the person bring the question, but to reaffirm their choice and their children racial status. This is the only type of person ready for a interracial marriage.
I even demonstrated this when in this thread I myself was in an interracial relationship when I said (I gots me a white woman). Being call selfish means nothing, when you know you are prepared to deal with the challenges you will face together. What's more if a interracial couple is not prepared to deal with all comers in a respectful way no matter how harshly they may come, then they absolutely do not need to be married/they are married for absolutely the wrong reasons, and time will indeed flush them out. Unfortunately in most cases it would seem that this will not happen before they have kids. Kids ill prepared to deal with the world to come. Which again points back to a selfish parent!
So yeah, just keep defending the right of people to not give two thoughts about the future nor the challenges their kids may face, just because it 'feels' like the right thing to do. Because no one should ever question anyone about anything anyone ever does so long as no one gets hurt... well hurt meaning (apparently) blood or broken bones.
Haha hahaha....What a twisted, lying, desperate little charlatan you've turned out to be! Does the idea of losing hurt you that badly, hon? For fuck's sake, just look at the shit you're blabbering now: "I didn't mean it, the way I meant it, douchebags. It was only a TEST...Yeah, that's it! A test!" And proceeding with unrelated garbage and presumptive bullshit.
Christ, what a fuggin' weasel.
Do you know what this all means, Drich? Nothing.
Absolutely nothing's changed.
Now quit being aninfant, and take your medicine like a BIG GUY:
(February 21, 2016 at 8:52 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote:
(February 20, 2016 at 3:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: Such as you believe goat herders wrote the Bible and I don't know of one goat herder that wrote any book in the Bible.
Who said goat herders wrote the Bible? The Bible was written by racist, sexist, conquesting, genocidal, slave-driving rapists.
You said it, can't you even remember what you wrote, it's no wonder we can't have a decent conversations. Your above reply is wrong as usual, why do you even try.
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GC Wrote:Catholics are a far cry from the protestants especially the Baptist, which I happen to be one.
This explains a lot actually. Baptists are always putting up church signs about how Jesus wants to come inside you but when you go to the service it's clearly false advertising. Similarly you say the Bible has no errors but when it comes time to defend that claim you suddenly cannot type.
Really, you must not know much about the Baptist, actually you know little to nothing about Christian worship, it's very apparent in your reply.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(February 21, 2016 at 8:52 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote:
Who said goat herders wrote the Bible? The Bible was written by racist, sexist, conquesting, genocidal, slave-driving rapists.
You said it, can't you even remember what you wrote, it's no wonder we can't have a decent conversations. Your above reply is wrong as usual, why do you even try.
Quote:This explains a lot actually. Baptists are always putting up church signs about how Jesus wants to come inside you but when you go to the service it's clearly false advertising. Similarly you say the Bible has no errors but when it comes time to defend that claim you suddenly cannot type.
Really, you must not know much about the Baptist, actually you know little to nothing about Christian worship, it's very apparent in your reply.
GC
I have never said on these forums that the Bible was written by goat herders. You have me mixed up with another atheist. This is forgivable because I often mix up who says what on Christianforums.com, but you aren't entirely off the hook because you need to explain why we should care about the proposed system of morality and/or propsed method of atonement that these racist, sexist, conquesting, genocidal, slave-driving rapists came up with.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
February 23, 2016 at 3:05 am (This post was last modified: February 23, 2016 at 3:07 am by robvalue.)
I'm constantly astounded at how confidently and easily people speak for God. I'd have thought that would be the ultimate sin, presuming to know the mind of God. Clearly he has no interest in speaking for himself.
Yet some people have direct access to everything he knows, it seems, and can tell us all his motivations at the drop of a hat. How could they know all this, when they can't even demonstrate they're talking about anything real at all? And how can millions of theists all know different, contradictory things about what is supposed to be the same thing?
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(February 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Drich Wrote: What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity.
How can you have 100,000 years of racial identity if the human race is only 6,000 years old?
Besides, no group has a cultural identity stretching back more than a thousand years, probably much less. Cultures change way too much for that. And white skin may be no older than 50,000 years, and Europeans were probably dark skinned just 8,000 years ago. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...laims.html Nor is cultural awareness of skin color necessarily all that old a concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
(February 16, 2016 at 4:43 pm)Drich Wrote: What I am saying interracial couples take from their children are a 100,000+ years of racial identity.
How can you have 100,000 years of racial identity if the human race is only 6,000 years old?
Besides, no group has a cultural identity stretching back more than a thousand years, probably much less. Cultures change way too much for that. And white skin may be no older than 50,000 years, and Europeans were probably dark skinned just 8,000 years ago. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...laims.html Nor is cultural awareness of skin color necessarily all that old a concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people
Drich believes in evolution?
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.
(February 23, 2016 at 4:15 am)Nihilist Virus Wrote:
(February 23, 2016 at 3:31 am)Jenny A Wrote: How can you have 100,000 years of racial identity if the human race is only 6,000 years old?
Besides, no group has a cultural identity stretching back more than a thousand years, probably much less. Cultures change way too much for that. And white skin may be no older than 50,000 years, and Europeans were probably dark skinned just 8,000 years ago. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...laims.html Nor is cultural awareness of skin color necessarily all that old a concept. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people
Drich believes in evolution?
If you'll pardon the expression, god knows what Dritch believes. Whatever it is though, it will be insane and odd even for a Christian. It's the Dritch way.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.