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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 12, 2016 at 5:40 pm
(February 12, 2016 at 8:58 am)Jehanne Wrote: It is helpful for many, benign for most, and harmful for a few. But, what type of drug is it? Marijuana, caffeine, cocaine, etc.?
Religion is and always will be a drug that blocks rational thought and critical thinking of the faith.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 12, 2016 at 5:41 pm
Religion is a PED. Some people need it as a crutch, some people need it to be better--but the truly great ones don't need it. Many defend it by saying that's what the majority do. Both can lead to death, and generally lead to a big head.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 12, 2016 at 5:42 pm
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Drugs and religion hardly relate to one other, I think it's more of form of an abusive relationship, a brain washing that can not be undone easy.Wouldn't it be something similar to Stockholm syndrome?
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 12, 2016 at 10:40 pm
It's like a permanent role playing game but in real life.
Like D&D. God is the dragon and they have enslaved their rational minds into the dungeons.
No amount of dice rolling will free you, only sink you deeper into the delusion.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 12, 2016 at 10:52 pm
It's whatever that drug is that makes you extremely prone to cognitive biases and it only diminishes your rationality in one specific area (believing in a guy-in-the-sky)...whatever drug that is.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 13, 2016 at 12:22 am
(This post was last modified: February 13, 2016 at 12:41 am by God of Mr. Hanky.)
(February 12, 2016 at 8:58 am)Jehanne Wrote: It is helpful for many, benign for most, and harmful for a few. But, what type of drug is it? Marijuana, caffeine, cocaine, etc.?
Theism is neither helpful nor benign for anyone. If it comforts its followers, well so does heroin its users. It's delusionary thinking which is passed down through the generations by the practice of fundamentally dishonest brainwashing of pre-reasoning children who are helpless when so taught said ideas to reject them as the lies which they are, and they would invariably do just that if such dope was first presented to them at post-pubescence.
What's particularly harmful about religion is the way it encourages ignorance. Other groups aren't different, they are "sinners", therefore bigots will always find friends in churches. You aren't responsible for your impact on the environment which your grandchildren will inherit, just ignore the warnings of those "sciencists" and our god will tak care of it all! If you live your life as a complete drudge, well maybe that's god's plan for you - just obey, and you will find an eternal reward at the end of your life. Don't ask questions, your doubts are just Satan whispering in your ear - just trust and OBEY!! TRUST me! 
Theism may not cause all children to languish from helicopter helot homeschooling parents who cover their eyes and fill their heads so full of cruel insidious lies that they have no hope of making it anywhere in the world outside of their vicious web, nor does it cause millions of children to be denied proper health care by pathologically prayer-obsessed parents, but this does not make it benign. Fundamentally, the Christian faith teaches children that they are born sinful by nature, and that is simply a disgusting cruel insult to human dignity and childhood self-esteem. It's 180 degrees away from the truthful observation that our accidental, non-supernatural and undesigned nature makes perfection impossible, that we are not born wise, therefore much of our learning must come from our mistakes! To err is not to "sin", it is not something which we are dirty with, but this is exactly the sort of cruel shit which is taught in every single Xtian church and Sunday school, evangelical or not.
Theism of the Xtian brand teaches women that they are to some extent lesser than men. With the exception of the Methodist church, which has it's own interesting brands of weirdness, women don't lead in churches, and they are encouraged to produce lots of babies. Of course lots of churchgoing moms run corporate business organizations, but those who don't have children are easily targets of ostracism - misogyny is what religion does best! Women are not encouraged in any churches to have their own agenda with their own bodies, therefore they are bullied into carrying unwanted pregnancies to term, resulting in way too many unhappy families led (or not) by people who live with broken dreams, often resulting in child abuse, but invariably populating our world with more unhappy people who are far more likely to turn to crime than we would have seen if only Mom had the good sense to ignore church doctrine and use contraception.
The simple device called the condom is something which is denied all Catholic believers, and its disuse is the reason why so many devastating, and often deadly diseases are spreading around the world.
No, religion is not in any way harmless, nor is it truly beneficial, it is only destructive. It may be destructive like alcohol is for most, while at worst it's like heroin, but it's never anything good. It's for the above reasons that I am anti-theist. I don't hate the user, I hate the drug, and theistic religion is a nasty one!
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 13, 2016 at 3:10 am
(February 12, 2016 at 8:58 am)Jehanne Wrote: It is helpful for many, benign for most, and harmful for a few. But, what type of drug is it? Marijuana, caffeine, cocaine, etc.?
Is it helpful or it's only appear so to indoctrinated for whom church sell cure to disease that it forced on them? I see nothing helpful in religion.
I would say it's some kind of strong drug that causes trouble with logical thinking, may disable empathy and push it user to force his sect taboo on those who don't take his favorite drug.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 13, 2016 at 3:44 am
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It is like a drug in that it's addictive, and it causes people to live somewhere between reality and fantasy. When I listen to fundamentals talk, unless they are flat out lying, the world they describe bears almost no resemblance to the one I live in.
It's an escape mechanism, like a drug, and it's a way of "forgetting your troubles" by burying your head in the sand. It's also a coping mechanism, to pretend every bad thing has some sort of purpose rather than face the stark, indifferent nature of reality.
So I'd say it shares a lot of the effects of drugs, and the motivation for use. And sadly, childhood indoctrination isn't much different from getting your kid hooked on drugs so that they are addicted as they enter adulthood.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 13, 2016 at 10:05 am
(February 13, 2016 at 3:44 am)robvalue Wrote: It's also a coping mechanism, to pretend every bad thing has some sort of purpose rather than face the stark, indifferent nature of reality.
I think that this is why religion persists in the Western World. Take your observation about Christian fundamentalists, Biblical literalists. What does it mean for them to abandon such a "foundational" concept such as the inerrancy of the Bible? The conclusion is clear, if one part of the Bible has errors, why can't other parts? Embracing Biblical errancy means, for them, a slippery slope; as such, you can find stupid debates all over the US as to whether the "day" in the first chapter of Genesis is 24 hours or longer.
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RE: Yes, religion is a drug, but what type of drug?
February 13, 2016 at 10:08 am
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Very true.
And the longer someone has held such an extreme position, the harder it must be to ever admit that they have been wrong all that time. So the harder the brain fights to twist the world in order to fit it inside the biblical narrative.
One more bit of mental gymnastics is easier than stopping to consider that your whole position might be wrong. The cognitive dissidence must be maddening.
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