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My views on objective morality
RE: My views on objective morality
(February 28, 2016 at 5:11 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: They can't both be right, and that tells me that morality is subjective, her own included.

And it changes with time, society and necessity.

Drippy actually has a point with his Pop morality thread. It's the title. The contents is pure and undiluted moronism, as usual.
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(February 27, 2016 at 3:36 am)Kitan Wrote: I sold my soul to the devil.  I actually did.  I made a pact and everything.  However, I am not a famous, published writer.  Therefore, the devil does not exist.  And neither does god.

Wrong!  God intervened, (again) to save your soul.
The proof is right there! Nothing happened! Because God nullified it, derrrr... How much more proof do you guys need! Jesus H Christ!

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I think I probably sold my soul to the devil too at some point. I can't remember. If he accepted, he got ripped off badly. I doubt he is that stupid.
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(February 26, 2016 at 7:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(February 26, 2016 at 7:37 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: Well what if you meet god and discover he is pro slavery? Maybe we where on the right path with slavery and messed it up?

Then He'd be a different god... not the one I currently believe in.

My point is, if you discovered this objective morality, the ultimate truth, and it told you that slavery was moral, would you think slavery was then moral?
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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"Revelation" gives way to "catholic teaching", ofc. You're not actually free to view the OT as figurative, btw....I don't know who told you that..the catechism is clear on the issue. Literal garden of eden, literal special creation, literal adam, literal eve, literal sin. These things are non-negotiable, as far as the church is concerned. That catholicism has become more liberal in the past few years doesn't change that fact. It just allows you to comfortably ignore what -you- damn well know is stupidity of the highest order.
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(February 28, 2016 at 12:14 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Revelation" gives way to "catholic teaching", ofc.  You're not actually free to view the OT as figurative, btw....I don't know who told you that..the catechism is clear on the issue.  Literal garden of eden, literal special creation, literal adam, literal eve, literal sin.  These things are non-negotiable, as far as the church is concerned.

It's what we learned in school. I went to Catholic school from kindergarten to 8th grade.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Then you were done a disservice. "Catholic teachings" demand literal interpretations of the stories...even if teaching a catholic....doesn't. A specially created literal adam and literal eve had to literally sin..and we must all be descended from them. Did they not teach you this, or were you selectively listening?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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