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Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
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RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 7, 2016 at 1:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Hitler was never elected, and the NaZis never had a parliamentary majority.

Hitler was never elected? What kind of history did you learn? He was democratically elected into parliamentary office. The NAZI's may not have had a parliamentary majority, but they were the largest party in Parliament in 1933. And if I'm not mistaken, the NAZI's had a higher vote than any other single party at any time in the general election up to that point (in 1933), and therefore no other party before them had held a parliamentary majority either. Majorities are more a thing of two-party States, plenty of European countries (and even today) have the parliamentarians form a coalition of parties for governance.
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#42
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
Trump will not win in November, so put your panties back on, EAractus.
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#43
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(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: Hitler was never elected? What kind of history did you learn? He was democratically elected into parliamentary office.

Question thrown right back at you. What history did you learn? Hitler without the conservative support to get him appointed by Hindenburg would have never been able to form a stable government. Virtually every other party was opposed to him.
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Yes he will win. Trump is undefeatable.
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#45
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(March 8, 2016 at 1:42 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Don't you think that it's possible for people to simply stop caring like they did in the European commie countries which led to the collapse of the commie governments?  One day people woke up and said that they had had it and the commie governments were no more.  There wasn't any violence to speak of.  It was really amazing.

And then there was mass starvation, followed by a rampant resurgence in State-established theism. The collapse of worldwide communism had to happen, but too bad how it left so many people with nothing good to build on from there.

Communism is an ideology, and that doesn't leave you much by which to compare US libertarianism - libertarianism is exactly what happens after people look at their government and then say "Fuck it all!" They are led by a loose collaboration of corporate interests which profit from war, not a government. They steal my meager income to feed their armies, they don't tax me!
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#46
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote:
(March 7, 2016 at 1:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Hitler was never elected, and the NaZis never had a parliamentary majority.

Hitler was never elected? What kind of history did you learn? He was democratically elected into parliamentary office.

You'll need to link to a citation for this ridiculous claim of yours. Hitler never was in any parliament. The only office Hitler ever held was Chancellor -- an executive and not legislative position -- gained by appointment from Hindenburg.

I hadn't realized that Australian schools were in such parlous state that they were reduced to economizing on facts, but that clearly has been the case with you.


(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: The NAZI's may not have had a parliamentary majority, but they were the largest party in Parliament in 1933.

And as pointed out above, their numbers had already started falling, even before Hitler was appointed to the Chancellor's office.

(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: And if I'm not mistaken, the NAZI's had a higher vote than any other single party at any time in the general election up to that point (in 1933), and therefore no other party before them had held a parliamentary majority either.

I didn't say any other party had a majority.

(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: Majorities are more a thing of two-party States, plenty of European countries (and even today) have the parliamentarians form a coalition of parties for governance.

Of course. What does that have to do with your erroneous claim that Hitler was elected? You're wrong about that.

Now go do some reading before you spout more idiocy. You're making a fool of yourself and aren't even bright enough to see it.

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#47
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Rayaan ( nice to see you again ) our problem has always been the Cowboy movie mentality.  We are always looking for the guy in the white hat to defeat the guy in the black hat.  The problem is that we don't handle shades of gray very well and there are way too many gray hats over there for us to keep track of.

Syria has been a Soviet/Russian ally for decades.  That alone explains Washington's antipathy towards the regime.  We do not give a shit about the Syrian people.  Never have - never will.  It's all rhetoric to justify in our own minds what we wished to do since John Foster Dulles was secretary of state.
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(March 8, 2016 at 12:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: It's all rhetoric to justify in our own minds what we wished to do since John Foster Dulles was secretary of state.

And the rhetorics are probably the biggest biggest gap between the continents. With American politics everything is a war. On drugs, on poverty (I think, this was copyright LBJ), on terror, on whatever. You couldn't hope to gain office by calling anything a war anywhere else in the world. I always tend to think, war is something like John Wayne riding into the sunset, for all too many Americans. The civilians haven't faced the consequences for over a 150 years by now, since Sherman marched through the old South.
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#49
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We don't tend to do very well in those "wars" either, Ab.  You'd think we'd tone it down after repeated failure but we cannot seem to absorb the lesson.
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#50
RE: Overthrowing oppressive regimes by military force
(March 8, 2016 at 12:00 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: Hitler was never elected? What kind of history did you learn? He was democratically elected into parliamentary office.

You'll need to link to a citation for this ridiculous claim of yours.  Hitler never was in any parliament.  The only office Hitler ever held was Chancellor -- an executive and not legislative position -- gained by appointment from Hindenburg.

I hadn't realized that Australian schools were in such parlous state that they were reduced to economizing on facts, but that clearly has been the case with you.


(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: The NAZI's may not have had a parliamentary majority, but they were the largest party in Parliament in 1933.

And as pointed out above, their numbers had already started falling, even before Hitler was appointed to the Chancellor's office.

(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: And if I'm not mistaken, the NAZI's had a higher vote than any other single party at any time in the general election up to that point (in 1933), and therefore no other party before them had held a parliamentary majority either.

I didn't say any other party had a majority.

(March 8, 2016 at 3:33 am)Aractus Wrote: Majorities are more a thing of two-party States, plenty of European countries (and even today) have the parliamentarians form a coalition of parties for governance.

Of course.  What does that have to do with your erroneous claim that Hitler was elected?  You're wrong about that.

Now go do some reading before you spout more idiocy. You're making a fool of yourself and aren't even bright enough to see it.

Well, you blew both legs off rambling about German history.  

Hitler was elected President of Germany on August 19, 1934.  He received 90% of the vote.
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