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Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
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Hey Rob, take a number and get in line. At least two of us are still waiting for our questions to be answered.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 22, 2016 at 4:31 am
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2016 at 4:31 am by robvalue.)
Oh sorry, my bad
I would love to know which christians understand the difference between teaching their children established facts about their religion, sharing and owning their personal beliefs, and teaching their personal beliefs as fact. These are three completely different things. Feel free to send me a private message.
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That they are. I even included the definition of the word "indoctrination" in my post on page 12 (?), since there seemed to be confusion about teaching not being the same thing.
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(March 11, 2016 at 5:45 am)Huggy74 Wrote: Indoctrination? please, Since when is teaching a child to love their fellow man indoctrination? Matthew 22:39 is BS because it's talking about Jews loving their Jewish neighbors. On top of that it was just a run-of-the-mill law copied verbatim from Leviticus 19:18. Leviticus 19:17-19 (CEB) = "17 You must not hate your fellow Israelite in your heart. Rebuke your fellow Israelite strongly, so you don’t become responsible for his sin. 18 You must not take revenge nor hold a grudge against any of your people; instead, you must love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord. 19 You must keep my rules. Do not crossbreed your livestock, do not plant your field with two kinds of seed, and do not wear clothes made from two kinds of material." The First Commandment tells the Israelites to be malicious thieving bigots. Exodus 34:12-16 (ERV) = "12 Be careful! Don’t make any agreement with the people who live in the land where you are going. If you make an agreement with them, it will bring you trouble. 13 So destroy their altars, break the stones they worship, and cut down their idols. 14 Don’t worship any other god. I am Yahweh Kanah—the jealous Lord. That is my name. I hate for my people to worship other gods. 15 “Be careful not to make any agreements with the people who live in that land. If you do this, you might join them when they worship their gods. They will invite you to join them, and you will eat their sacrifices. 16 You might choose some of their daughters as wives for your sons. Those daughters serve false gods. They might lead your sons to do the same thing." They had zero love for their non-Israelite neighbors. You can bet that if the fairy tale was true you, as a Gentile, would never set foot in the gaudy bejeweled golden cube called New Jerusalem. (March 21, 2016 at 12:37 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: Wouldn't be the first time he's simply dropped a subject. First of all, I already addressed the issues you posted in a previous post, you just refuse to listen. secondly, I didn't drop anything, I just get burnt out repeating myself and need to take a break.
You seem to have totally avoided my post about teaching being the same thing as indoctrination.
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(March 22, 2016 at 10:46 am)Nymphadora Wrote: You seem to have totally avoided my post about teaching being the same thing as indoctrination.Words tend to change their meaning or become obsolete over time, for example "Gay" meant happy back in the day, not now. "Indoctrination" carries a much more negative connotation than "teaching", Maybe that's what it meant back in the day, not now.
It is still the same principle. To indoctrinate means to teach. The definition I posted, with a link, is a definition that is used in the present time. I don't see where it is any different than in the past. But in either case, you were making the statement that teaching is not the same as indoctrination, and I showed you proof that it is the same.
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RE: Teach children about Jesus at a young age,
March 22, 2016 at 12:43 pm
(This post was last modified: March 22, 2016 at 12:43 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(March 22, 2016 at 12:35 pm)Nymphadora Wrote: It is still the same principle. To indoctrinate means to teach. The definition I posted, with a link, is a definition that is used in the present time. I don't see where it is any different than in the past. But in either case, you were making the statement that teaching is not the same as indoctrination, and I showed you proof that it is the same. https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/indoctrination Quote:Indoctrination often refers to religious ideas, when you're talking about a religious environment that doesn't let you question or criticize those beliefs. The Latin word for "teach," doctrina is the root of indoctrinate, and originally that's just what it meant. By the 1830s it came to mean the act of forcing ideas and opinions on someone who isn't allowed to question them.
Be that as it may, if you go to college to get a "Doctorate", you're being TAUGHT in the subject that the doctorate degree is being sought after.
So, regardless, my point still stands. Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
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