Why the whole Adam and Eve Fall story makes no sense

[Cecelia]

Nothings impossible with God.

GC

So with God, it's then possible he's an evil dirtbag, and we should all worship Satan instead?

[Expired]

Anyone who believes snakes can talk, are not really in a position to put anyone in their place.

Anyone who believes life came from a muddy soup, has no ground to stand on.

GC

How do you know that is what I believe?

[Nihilist Virus]

Jeremiah 18:10 says,

"If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them."

So disobedience to God is evil.

Adam and Eve disobeyed God by eating the forbidden fruit, therefore they committed evil, but they were unaware of good and evil before having eaten of the fruit (as I showed above in huge letters).  Therefore they were punished for actions which they did not comprehend.

So as I said originally,

Adam and Eve did not know the difference between good and evil

They were then punished for committing evil

Well you brought a good verse, unfortunately for you it doesn't apply to Adam and Eve or any individual. Do you know what the 'it' is in the verse, I doubt you do or you wouldn't have brought this verse to the argument. This verse as the rest in chapter 18 were about Israel and the rights God has dealing with it. Israel was doing all sorts of evil against God, their disobedience against God included idol worship, sexual immorality, badly mistreating their fellow man, sacrificing to other gods and ect. God told them in this very chapter He would tear them down and then rebuild them. You've taken a verse that came thousands of years after Adam one meant for a evil nation and applied it to a situation that is not the same, here's why. When a child disobeys it's parent and that child doesn't understand what sin is God doesn't hold that against the child, Adam and Eve knew not evil so evil was not held against them, disobedience was. It was definitely a terrible case of disobedience because all of mankind suffers because of that act but, it was not evil, one has to know evil to commit evil, period. You failed to prove Adam committed evil, God never said Adam committed an evil act. The worse thing Adam did was to shun God's love and showed no respect for Him.
So take your checkmate and apply it to yourself or someone else.

GC

What is being referred to by "it" is irrelevant to the point. Observe that I can replace "it" with "Sponge Bob" and the point is not altered: "If Sponge Bob do evil in my sight, that he obey not my voice..."

See, the point is that the verse equates evil with disobedience. Now please read my argument again. Maybe try standing on a phone book thsi time so it doesn't go over your head.

[Jehanne]

That's a great point!

Anyone who believes that we came from a muddy soup (God taking Dirt, and turning it into a man) has no ground to stand on at all.  I couldn't agree more.

And to believe woman came from a rib?  That's not even possible.

Nothings impossible with God.

GC

Yes, Last Thursdayism, but I'll start a new post to tell a tale about that!

[ignoramus]

Anyone who believes life came from a muddy soup, has no ground to stand on.

GC

How do you know that is what I believe?

Didn't you know?

Theists know fucking everything!
It's easy to have all the answers if you're not interested in proving how you know.

[Expired]

How do you know that is what I believe?

Didn't you know?

Theists know fucking everything!
It's easy to have all the answers if you're not interested in proving how you know.

I have no idea what I'm talking about half the time, so fuck knows how he knows.

[I coulda had a V8]

Anyone who believes life came from a muddy soup, has no ground to stand on.

GC

That's a great point!

Anyone who believes that we came from a muddy soup (God taking Dirt, and turning it into a man) has no ground to stand on at all.  I couldn't agree more.

And to believe woman came from a rib?  That's not even possible.

OH SNAP!

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That's a great point!

Anyone who believes that we came from a muddy soup (God taking Dirt, and turning it into a man) has no ground to stand on at all.  I couldn't agree more.

And to believe woman came from a rib?  That's not even possible.

Nothings impossible with God.

GC

Can god make a rock he can’t lift?

[Mudhammam]

God creates everything, including Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...the tree of knowledge (does that mean god wanted us to be stupid? Or just to mindlessly obey - I mean, is the "wrong" done here because they disobeyed, or because they gained the knowledge of good and evil) and then banished them from the garden, before they could eat from the tree of life (that would give them eternal life) - after playing a game of hide and seek.And its never explained why that tree was there in the first place or what was the deal with the talking snake(most Christians would say it was Satan but it was never explicitly stated as such).

Uh. Dude. It's an allegory. You're not asking the right questions. Rather than, "Why was the tree there to begin with you?" you ought to be asking, "What does the tree represent?"

[Nihilist Virus]

God creates everything, including Adam and Eve.Adam and Eve eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil...the tree of knowledge (does that mean god wanted us to be stupid? Or just to mindlessly obey - I mean, is the "wrong" done here because they disobeyed, or because they gained the knowledge of good and evil) and then banished them from the garden, before they could eat from the tree of life (that would give them eternal life) - after playing a game of hide and seek.And its never explained why that tree was there in the first place or what was the deal with the talking snake(most Christians would say it was Satan but it was never explicitly stated as such).

Uh. Dude. It's an allegory. You're not asking the right questions. Rather than, "Why was the tree there to begin with you?" you ought to be asking, "What does the tree represent?"

The tree represented knowledge, which explains why Christians are against it.

[I coulda had a V8]

God plants this garden that has everything in it and what is forbidden? Weed? Coca? Opium? Tobacco? Hell no! Knowledge is forbidden. God had no problem with humans being eternally strung out drug addicts, but knowing stuff like good and evil, well that shits forbidden.