Free will

[Spirian]

@ Spirian.  I have that same experience....how accurate do you think it is, and by what metrics?

I lack sufficient data to determine the accuracy of my observations in this regard. I would be speculating as to what metric with which to measure said accuracy. If god exists, it's a sneaky lil bastard.

[The Grand Nudger]

Forget god, entirely, lol.  It's not necessary.  Speculate away, it was an invitation after all.

[Thomas Kelly252525]

It may be thought that a person with no freewill may be compared to stone used to build a spectacular palace.

[The Grand Nudger]

See, you're doing it again.  Regardless of whether or not I have free will..I'm significantly different from a stone. Still silly, -still- the same reason.

[Spirian]

For all I know, I am god, and I'm dreaming the universe, and when I wake up, it'll all end. Or maybe I'm just a man, having a psychedelic adventure, and I've accidentally tapped into the code matrix of all that is, and I'm winging it - throwing curve balls at the universe. Maybe still, I'm just a program in a cosmic machine - no more than a string made of 1's and 0's, leading to predetermined output.

The possibilities are as limitless as my mind, which may be all that exists, and everything else is a mere projection of that mind.

[Thomas Kelly252525]

See, you're doing it again.  Regardless of whether or not I have free will..I'm significantly different from a stone.  Still silly, -still- the same reason.

Rhythm,


It was just a comparison of a person changing from no freewill to freewill and becoming extremely useful.

[The Grand Nudger]

Awfully unwieldy as a preamble amiright, and I promise I take all of that for granted...still though, you must lean towards something or another...you must have some opinion as to the accuracy of that particular experience or a manner in which it could be actualized? Otherwise why would having the experience indicate anything at all, to you?

[Thomas Kelly252525]

Awfully unwieldy as a preamble amiright, and I promise I take all of that for granted...still though, you must lean towards something or another...you must have some opinion as to the accuracy of that particular experience or a manner in which it could be actualized?  Otherwise why would having the experience indicate anything at all, to you?

Rhythm,

Do you think your cells control you and that you have no control over them ?

[Spirian]

Awfully unwieldy as a preamble amiright, and I promise I take all of that for granted...still though, you must lean towards something or another...you must have some opinion as to the accuracy of that particular experience or a manner in which it could be actualized?  Otherwise why would having the experience indicate anything at all, to you?

I suspect that I am an animal being on a planet in a universe which has no currently discernible origin or maintenance feature, and that my consciousness bears its subsistence within my physical mind. I can do whatever I like (free will) but I am bound to certain rules (natural law) which may yield harsh consequences for making a free will choice which violates natural law, like walking off of a cliff or throwing myself into a fire.

[The Grand Nudger]

@Kelley

I think that's a poorly formed question.  I -am- my cells.

@Spir

Isn't that an awfully vague description of free will..that's untrue on it's face? Can you do whatever you like...and in what way is that free, and from what?