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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 3, 2017 at 8:21 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 5:33 pm)Hammy Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I didn't say I believe because I believe, you sound like all the other atheist here. you didn't come to learn as you said you came to criticize.
GC
You missed a plural and a capital letter.
Yours sincerely,
Your pal,
Hammy the big meanie critical atheist same as all the others.
So! You think your criticism means anything to me, wrong!
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 3, 2017 at 9:44 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 8:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Philosophy isn't a real science, it's more like people who have nothing better to do than sitting around making up what pleases them. In the end we will see if the philosophers or God is the real deal.
GC
If materialism is correct, then you will never know that you are dead. I appreciate your agnosticism, though!
Actually I'm sure of how things will end, the statement was for the philosophers and you. Have a good weekend.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 3, 2017 at 9:52 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 8:24 am)Jehanne Wrote: Many would disagree with you, GC, that the concept of "god" is logically inconsistent and self-contradictory. I know that you and WLC do not agree, but there are prominent philosophers who hold prominent chairs who say otherwise.
Philosophy isn't a real science, it's more like people who have nothing better to do than sitting around making up what pleases them. In the end we will see if the philosophers or God is the real deal.
GC
Science itself is natural philosophy so you're headfucked there mate.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 4, 2017 at 11:10 am
(November 3, 2017 at 9:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 8:01 pm)Jehanne Wrote: If materialism is correct, then you will never know that you are dead. I appreciate your agnosticism, though!
Actually I'm sure of how things will end, the statement was for the philosophers and you. Have a good weekend.
GC
No doubts whatsoever?? I spent the 80s certain that Jesus would come again, and he has yet to show-up. Maybe never? (Because, he's a dead human being?)
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 6, 2017 at 12:06 pm
(November 3, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 5:24 am)possibletarian Wrote: So if you believe because you believe, how do you distinguish reality from delusion. ?
I didn't say I believe because I believe, you sound like all the other atheist here. you didn't come to learn as you said you came to criticize.
GC
I didn't come here to learn from christians. I can be ignorant, hypocritical and egotistical all by my lonesome.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 6, 2017 at 12:50 pm
(November 6, 2017 at 12:06 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 5:19 pm)Godscreated Wrote: I didn't say I believe because I believe, you sound like all the other atheist here. you didn't come to learn as you said you came to criticize.
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I didn't come here to learn from christians. I can be ignorant, hypocritical and egotistical all by my lonesome.
You've been anything "but"; sometimes saying that the "shoe fits" is appropriate for those who need to start wearing them.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 6, 2017 at 3:19 pm
(November 6, 2017 at 12:50 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (November 6, 2017 at 12:06 pm)Harry Nevis Wrote: I didn't come here to learn from christians. I can be ignorant, hypocritical and egotistical all by my lonesome.
You've been anything "but"; sometimes saying that the "shoe fits" is appropriate for those who need to start wearing them.
Oh, I'm all of those. But I try to recognize it before I put pen to paper. Or fingers to keyboard.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 7, 2017 at 12:36 am
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(November 3, 2017 at 9:52 pm)Hammy Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 5:55 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Philosophy isn't a real science, it's more like people who have nothing better to do than sitting around making up what pleases them. In the end we will see if the philosophers or God is the real deal.
GC
Science itself is natural philosophy so you're headfucked there mate.
If science is a philosophy then science isn't in trouble it is trouble.
GC
(November 4, 2017 at 11:10 am)Jehanne Wrote: (November 3, 2017 at 9:44 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Actually I'm sure of how things will end, the statement was for the philosophers and you. Have a good weekend.
GC
No doubts whatsoever?? I spent the 80s certain that Jesus would come again, and he has yet to show-up. Maybe never? (Because, he's a dead human being?)
No doubts whatsoever. Jesus never promised to come in your life time or mine, the Father will send Him back when the time is right according to God's will. If jesus were a dead man then why have so many through the centuries died for Him, 26 did just that this weekend.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 7, 2017 at 6:44 am
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Quote:Quote:No doubts whatsoever?? I spent the 80s certain that Jesus would come again, and he has yet to show-up. Maybe never? (Because, he's a dead human being?)
No doubts whatsoever. Jesus never promised to come in your life time or mine, the Father will send Him back when the time is right according to God's will. If jesus were a dead man then why have so many through the centuries died for Him, 26 did just that this weekend.
GC
You live in a twisted world with a even more twisted view of reality. Those individuals who were murdered did not die for Jesus; they were killed by a lunatic who was intent on revenge against his wife's family. It's like saying that the individuals in the World Trade Centers died for Allah. No, they simply died, with and at the hands of those who believed in Allah.
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RE: Dr. Craig contradiction.
November 7, 2017 at 7:22 am
(November 7, 2017 at 12:36 am)Godscreated Wrote: If jesus were a dead man then why have so many through the centuries died for Him, 26 did just that this weekend.
GC
I'm sure given the choice those who 'died for him' would have stayed at home. This weekends events were tragic, don't try to make out those people would have willingly given their lives, it's a ridiculous thing to say.
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