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Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
I feel your pain. I grew up Christian thinking I had to suppress my sexuality. I'm a pansexual gender fluid. I thought I had to love men only. It was so difficult, because all I could think about was my best friend, Wendy. 

Of course, now I'm me. Free to feel. It's amazing to feel freely.
"Hipster is what happens when young hot people do what old ladies do." -Exian
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
(April 5, 2016 at 11:31 pm)Mamacita Wrote: I feel your pain. I grew up Christian thinking I had to suppress my sexuality. I'm a pansexual gender fluid. I thought I had to love men only. It was so difficult, because all I could think about was my best friend, Wendy. 

Of course, now I'm me. Free to feel. It's amazing to feel freely.

I think it's really sad how religion can lead people to repress their nature. I can totally understand why it happens.

I'm really glad you were able to break free and finally be yourself!

I don't judge anyone because of their sexuality or fetishes. As long as they don't hurt anyone and everything is consensual, it's their business. No one has any choice about what kind of things appeal to them sexually, it's just how we are. There's nothing to be ashamed of.

As for the story of Lot, that had nothing to do with homosexuality. A common misconception. The "sins" of the town were never made specific, for which God decided to burn the whole place down. It just so happened the angels God sent in were irresistible to the men of the town. You'd think God would have known that would be the case.

I've no idea what the moral of the story is supposed to be. The "hero" of the piece, Lot, offered up his daughters to be gang raped. And he was the one that was spared in all this, along with his family. Before God turned his wife into salt for minor disobedience.

I learned that God is a deranged monster.
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
(April 5, 2016 at 11:31 pm)Mamacita Wrote: I feel your pain. I grew up Christian thinking I had to suppress my sexuality. I'm a pansexual gender fluid. I thought I had to love men only. It was so difficult, because all I could think about was my best friend, Wendy. 

Of course, now I'm me. Free to feel. It's amazing to feel freely.

Growing up, the country I was in was...a mess. I think everybody knows now, I grew up in Saudi Arabia. I'm not from there though, but the country is filled with immigrants from the surrounding Arab countries.

I loved women, and enjoyed looking and taking a peek. My foot fetish came from the way women used to dress there: everything covered, except for the feet and eyes; showing.  I had tendency and I was inclined to light skins more; some women there took so much care of their feet, I do think yet that dark skinned girls deserve attention and love; too. 

But my homosexuality came from the Wahhabi boy schools. There are no girls allowed with boys in schools there. It was sick. When our puberty kicked in, and our hormones burned up, we started to incline to other boys..

Most of my generation never forgot women; but some of us sure were into boys. I was among them, yes, I enjoyed it when my body was pressed against other boys that I saw feminine and pretty. 

I had secret lovers, but I resisted, and they weren't gay anyways, I felt that some might've been.
That wrong social path made me this way. I never wanted to be like this.

It is then when I grew up to become a villian for Sunni/Shia faiths and methods of belief. What they did to me, and to my friends, was just torture. They prevented us from our right that God gave us, to spend our youth normally.

Believe it or not, mamacita, Losty is the third girl that I talk with this freely. the first was a Shia girl, the second was a Sunni Egyptian, and now; that.

But I took a vow not to become innocent. I prefer ugly truth over sweet lie. I worked on my personality, to give the impression that I'm not a virgin. I'm a virgin. I never, ever did anything.

But life in the Wahhabi state made me rough. I learned how the hammer of life can shape you, and how we always have a choice. How evil can exist even in the closest to you.

I took God as my ally; my savior. He was. He prevented my from homosexuality; though. I know, and believe, that it's a psycological state. No, we're not like that.
Animals in nature who do it, do it because they don't know; it's just putting it in the hole.

In us humans, no, it sometimes becomes so emotional. I think you feel too; likein you're paralized and drugged under your same-gender lover.
It's so wrong.

An event in your childhood made you and me into that.
They never allowed us to see girls, and the nomadic tribes there would fight you if you flirt with their girls.

You know, bedwins are terrible in that regard. 

So..yep

robvalue

 I can date my shift into bisexuality to the days of school; rob.
Wahhabies..not my nature..they twisted me.

As for the story of Lot; yes the story foretold other sins. Aside from homosexuality, raiding was also mentioned..did they use to rape other men too?
I think that's why Lot offered his daughters instead, Lot knew better that trying to rape angels will make God destroy the town; he didn't offer his girls because he was scared or taking them as a shield; he actually feared the wrath of God..

I, after what I saw in Saudi Arabia, don't see God as a monster..
Try to feel yourself trapped, rapped by society to become gay..like what happened to me.

Now rob, I enjoy it.

No wonder I enjoy kinks like being dominated, and now I must quit it.
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
Well, it's a fictional story. So I'm not going to argue about how you interpret it. All I can do is read the words as they appear. I understand your desire to put it all in a more sympathetic light.
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
Wow, Atlas. Your story made me sad. I'm so sorry you experienced it all. I hope one day you give yourself the gift of freedom of thought, so even if laws prevent you from living your dreams, at least you can be free to enjoy your thoughts. I don't know what else to say. Thanks for sharing.

Robvalue, thank you! As always, you're the best.
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Thank you for telling your story.
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
(April 6, 2016 at 8:00 pm)Mamacita Wrote: Wow, Atlas. Your story made me sad. I'm so sorry you experienced it all. I hope one day you give yourself the gift of freedom of thought, so even if laws prevent you from living your dreams, at least you can be free to enjoy your thoughts. I don't know what else to say. Thanks for sharing.

Robvalue, thank you! As always, you're the best.

Thank you, so are you Group Hug

I totally agree with you. I can almost feel the conflict within Atlas through his words.

If a God is going to be mad at you for doing what you want to do, with another consensual adult, and hurting no one, God is a prick. He is the repressed one. Why would the master of the whole universe want people to shut off part of who they are? There is literally nothing wrong with being gay or bisexual. It's perfectly natural. It's harmless. The only hurt is to the feelings of bigots. All that is wrong are the attitudes religion and societies have towards it. Things are getting much better, generally, I'm happy to say. At least in some parts of the world.

Also, people don't get "turned gay". It doesn't work like that. People can, however, deny their feelings (or not recognise them) and bury them so far down that they convince themselves they are not gay or bi. Once it finally bursts through, and they admit it at least to themselves, they have not turned gay. They have learned about themselves. And it's not a bad thing they have learned.
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
This topic was strange. Thank you all, all. Mamacita, Mermaid, rob, but not just you, anybody who posted, and read my case. I never told anybody in my real life, so you guys are the first. Thank you.

And Losty. Yep. I blush for seeing your posts, sometimes like a little girl, and I can feel how your support is also special. You made my day with your posts in this topic. It was the first time in my life to speak openly like this to any human. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm in your debt.
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It's a big thing you have done, and I'm proud of you Smile
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RE: Feminism: why am I supposed to worship women's feet again?
Atlas, are you safe posting this on the internet?
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