Lel. Doctor.
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Dr. Craig is a liar.
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(April 5, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Lel. Doctor. Actually, he has 2. University of Birmingham (Ph.D. 1977) University of Munich (D.Theol. 1984) He has authored or edited over thirty books, including The Kalam Cosmological Argument; Assessing the New Testament Evidence for the Historicity of the Resurrection of Jesus; Divine Foreknowledge and Human Freedom; Theism, Atheism and Big Bang Cosmology; and God, Time and Eternity, as well as over a hundred articles in professional journals of philosophy and theology, including The Journal of Philosophy, New Testament Studies, Journal for the Study of the New Testament, American Philosophical Quarterly, Philosophical Studies, Philosophy, and British Journal for Philosophy of Science. You may not agree with him, but he certainly way smarter than average and has thought more on these topics than you ever will. RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 5, 2016 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2016 at 2:13 pm by ApeNotKillApe.)
And yet he's still an intellectually bankrupt retard.
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April 5, 2016 at 2:16 pm
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(April 5, 2016 at 2:12 pm)SteveII Wrote: You may not agree with him, but he certainly way smarter than average I disagree with him because he is wrong. His intelligence generally has nothing to do with it. If a side effect of his ignorance is me thinking he's a complete dumbass, in spite of his supposed 'education', well, so be it. Oh, and "he certainly is", or "he is certainly". Either of the two would do. Quote: and has thought more on these topics than you ever will. Again, no bearing on whether he is right. Kind of sounds like a half arsed appeal to authority. RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 5, 2016 at 2:55 pm
(This post was last modified: April 5, 2016 at 2:56 pm by robvalue.)
I think it comes down more to the fact that some people are prepared to worship a being that is at least partially evil.
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The problem of evil depends upon how you define God. If God is capricious, or moody, or evil, or even partially evil himself, then Craig is correct, there is no logical contradiction. However, there is a contradiction if one defines God as "all good," (or omnibenevolent) which many Christians do. How would the concept of evil even occur to an all good being? All good beings would only think all good thoughts (for even one evil thought would negate the "all good" aspect of the being). For example, we wouldn’t say someone is all good if they contemplated torturing babies – even if they never acted upon it. Put differently, a God capable of contemplating evil (much less acting to create evil in the world) is less good than a God which never imagines anything evil at all. But again, the problem all depends on how you define (and more importantly… imagine) God.
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April 5, 2016 at 6:21 pm
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(April 5, 2016 at 2:12 pm)SteveII Wrote:(April 5, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Lel. Doctor. All that, and he still presents the same flawed version of the Cosmological Argument for decades, as if it is unassailable and has never been refuted. At the very least, he is intellectually dishonest. He enters debates with the alleged intent of changing minds. Yet he does so with the knowledge going in, that he will never change his mind. He has stated several times, that "witness of the holy spirit" will always trump actual, demonstrable evidence. You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence. (April 5, 2016 at 2:12 pm)SteveII Wrote:(April 5, 2016 at 2:01 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Lel. Doctor. Yeah, the next time I see a criminal burglarizing a house, I just won't call the cops; after all, god may have a "higher purpose" in allowing crime in this world to go unpunished. In fact, vaccination of young children may have been a cosmic mistake, because man, in doing that, may have been interfering with "god's plans". RE: Dr. Craig is a liar.
April 6, 2016 at 4:10 am
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2016 at 4:11 am by robvalue.)
Hah, right.
It comes down to "God can do anything, who am I do judge?" Therefor saying he is "good" is meaningless. However, we would expect any capable person to step and and stop the things that he watches idly. So that's the judgement, right there. Also, he doesn't just watch those things, he made them physically possible in the first place. He didn't have to, unless his omnipotence is on the fritz. So fuck him and the imaginary horse he rode in on. Feel free to send me a private message.
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