Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]

[Lucanus]

Here's to Queen Margaery of house Tyrell, who died as she lived: hot as fuck

[pocaracas]

Writing while watching!! (haven't read any of your spoilers )

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- OMG - Wildfire under Baelor's Sept! all dead!!
And Cersei... already dressed in black.... first looking a bit sad.... then picks up the wine glass and smirks... Awesome!
Not so nice that little kids would be used to kill Pycelle and one would stab that idiot Lancel... at least there was a nice cinematic effect of almost reaching the trigger that would be the undoing of the Faith Militant. Totally unrealistic... why would anyone draw one of them to that place and risk ruining the plan?!
AH!!! Septa Unella "confess"!! Ahh... what did the mountain do to her?!
And Tommen? O.o he fell... no more of Cersei's children... no more king... this won't end well...

- Jamie vs Walder Frey.... "Why do we need you?".... o.O

- Sam, the salyer reaches Old Town!! Cleaned up Gilly is kinda cute.
Ahhh... the book worm dream! A huge ass library!

- So... Jon cares not for Sansa's not telling him about Little Finger... curious... The plot demands that these be brothers, I guess.

- Lady Olena in Dorne, already knowing what happened in King's Landing? hmmm Weeks after? or "LittleFinger transport"™?
Wow... Varys is also using the same kind of transport, I see... hmmm a Targaryen/Tyrell/Martell alliance? The Dornish master plan?

- WUT?! Ships nearly ready?! How long has passed? Poor Daario...
Tyrion is The Hand, again!

- Back in the Frey! WUT?! Arya?! everyone is just flying around, now!!

- Petyr Baelish does want the Iron Throne... and Sansa!

- Coldh.... oh Benjen leaves Bran.... he's safe, now, next to a tree, of course! No more mark, of course!

- R+L=J!!!!!!!!!!

- The true enemy brings the storm! Lady Mormont... just like her uncle!
So... since when does a dead character become a king in just one season?

- Damn... Jamie knows about LittleFinger Transport ™ too?!
Cersei is queen.... just like she always wanted.... but who will (would) succeed her?! No more kids coming from her womb...
Qyburn is hand? O.o

- The unsullied sail to Westeros! Are they going to just stand in formation for the whole trip?... well.... LittleFinger transport ™ will make it feel like a short time...
What's Varys doing back there?! How long as passed?!

Oh, I give up.
Why not get the dragons to power up a boiler? -.-'


(now to read what y'all have been writing since yesterday)

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[pocaracas]

Speculations?
I just want to see dragons burning whitewalkers!
Bran warging into a dragon could be neat, too.

Why would the wall fall?... oh my... Dany gets her dragons to melt the wall?!

[SteelCurtain]

I'm guessing the night king has some more powerful magic that breaks the spell of the wall.

I think Dany marries Jon after routing Cersei with Dorne and Highgarden in her van.

They then turn North towards the real war, where Jon dies to save Dany. She's so distraught at losing her love that she flies off on Drogon, abandoning the seven kingdoms.

[FatAndFaithless]

Find someone that looks at you the way Sam Tarly looks at library books.

[Aegon]

I'm guessing the night king has some more powerful magic that breaks the spell of the wall.

I think Dany marries Jon after routing Cersei with Dorne and Highgarden in her van.

They then turn North towards the real war, where Jon dies to save Dany. She's so distraught at losing her love that she flies off on Drogon, abandoning the seven kingdoms.

Man if Dany keeps riding off abandoning everyone I'm just gonna lose it.

[Lucanus]

[pocaracas]

ERmahFURKINGHERD that was too good. Cersei usurping the throne. Not for long, bitch. And Varys must have a jet pack. He was in Dorne, then back in Mereen with the quickness. Dorne and Highgarden are the Southern pincer, nonetheless.

I still wonder for the rightful succession to the Iron Throne.

I mean, all of the Baratheons are dead, the Iron Throne does not seat Queens (yet). There hopefully won't be enough time for a real battle for the Iron Throne as Dany is on her way.

Jon has the best claim, although Bran needs to figure out how to get his ass south of the wall. At least Uncle Benjen could have dropped them off at the wall, although the weirwood was a good stop.

Gendry, anyone? The Stag Bastard rises!!!

Let's see....
According to this family tree here (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/c/c6/H...y_tree.jpg)
Aerys (the mad king) had 3 children: Rhaegar, Viserys, and Daenerys.
Both Rhaegar and Viserys are dead, so Daenerys should have the claim of the throne.

Jon is (supposedly) the son of Rhaegar, so Dany's nephew.
However, Jon is still a bastard of Rhaegar's, for he was married to Elia Martell, the one that was supposedly killed by The Mountain... remember what Oberyn Martell wanted him to confess?.. and he did!

So, we're left with Jon having both Targaryen and Stark blood, while Dany is a pure blood Targaryen.

Jon would be a nice match to bring unity to the 7 kingdoms, while fulfilling Dany's (genetic) desire to mate with another Targaryen. But Dany's not gonna have kids, or so it's been hinted at... How's that bloodline going to survive?

I know!! Once Jon and Dany sit on the throne, they're going to institute a "democracy", like what Jon learned from the Free Folk!


Gendry is lost, I think... better not count on him. He'd only have a claim through Robert... and both Jon and Daenerys have a claim from the Targaryens, which came before Robert... so he's third in line, at best.... fourth, if we count Prince Aegon, from the books.

[FatAndFaithless]

Jon's claim is hugely weaker than Dany's. In the world of Westeros, bastards can't inherit anything, let alone the throne of the entire country (the fact that Jon is even being considered so highly in the North is already extremely unusual). The only way Jon would have the legal right is if his father legitimized him (like Roose Bolton did for Ramsey), and Jon's father(s) are both dead.

That being said, Dany could just...force everyone to be okay with it since..y'know, dragons.

[Aegon]

Jon's claim is hugely weaker than Dany's.  In the world of Westeros, bastards can't inherit anything, let alone the throne of the entire country (the fact that Jon is even being considered so highly in the North is already extremely unusual).  The only way Jon would have the legal right is if his father legitimized him (like Roose Bolton did for Ramsey), and Jon's father(s) are both dead.  

That being said, Dany could just...force everyone to be okay with it since..y'know, dragons.

But is Jon a bastard? There's a number of things pointing to Rhaegar having legitimized Jon prior to his death. 

The first being, if Rheager had actually just raped Lyanna and fathered a bastard, why would the Kingsguard be there? There's a monumental war happening, why wouldn't the Kingsguard (especially Arthur fookin' Dayne) not be either protecting King Aerys or fighting alongside Rheagar on the battlefield? Why would they be guarding the Tower of Joy unless there was somebody very special in there....like a Targaryen prince, the third head of the dragon, and the Prince That Was Promised? Gerold Hightower, one of the Kingsguard, says in the books that the reason they are there and not protecting Aerys or Rhaegar is because "We swore a vow." That would make no sense unless Jon was a prince, someone Rheagar believed to be the future of the Targaryen lineage in the event that they all die in Robert's Rebellion (which is exactly what happened.) 

Other reasons are fan theories/speculation. The crypts of Winterfell are thought to have something very important in proving Jon's legitimacy. In the novels, Jon constantly dreams of the crypts, of them calling to him. And dreams in ASOIAF very regularly translate to reality. Lyanna is the only woman to have her own tomb in the crypts of Winterfell...hell, the only woman to have a statue anywhere (aside from The Mother). Many readers theorize that Ned did this to keep a relic there, safe from anybody else (especially Robert) that proves Jon is of Targaryen lineage. Many speculate that it's Rheagar's harp that he left behind at the Tower of Joy. 

All that being said, when Jon finds out I don't think he'll actually give a damn. He's lived his life as a Stark (a bastard, yes, but this past season proves that he is truly Stark through and through). His battle is with the North against the White Walkers. He'll have no interest in the throne or the wars of southron lords.