Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion [SPOILERS WITHIN]

[Iroscato]

Personally I enjoyed this season more than any other. Season 5 was the weakest for me, it did feel like 10 episodes of buffering relative to the seasons that came before and this one. S6 certainly wasn't perfect and suffered from the weak middle that has plagued the show for a while, but I thought the last two absolutely made up for its shortcomings and then some.
Maybe it's because I've never read the books. But in regards to that, the GRRM Reaper has had 20 fucking years to complete ASOIAF. Even when the show started back in 2011, he had 5 years to bring out Winds of Winter. The man has ascended to another level of procrastination. Considering the showrunners are now running essentially on fumes material-wise, working with broad generalisations and scraps, I think they've done an absolutely magnificent job of creating a show that is superb in its own right.

[Homeless Nutter]

That's what happens when TV-show writers take over from a huge book project... while trying no to spoil too much in one season.

LOL. They were not trying to avoid spoilers - the writers had no idea where to go with the stories, without the next book to rely upon for clever writing and plot twists. The first half of this season, at least, everyone was just turning in circles, doing pretty much the same things they were doing at the end of season 5, delaying the need for story development. Arya kept defying the Faceless Men - just like in season 5. Cersei was preparing was for her trial. The Sparrow dude was preoccupied exclusively with the trials of 3 people, as far as we know - just like in season 5. Daenerys - still getting ready to go to Westeros. And so on.
Characters, who should have known better were doing dumb things, for no reason, just to facilitate the next predictable event - because we all knew, that Jon was going to come back to life, Rickon was going to die, Jon was going to take Winterfell, Sansa and the Knights of the Vale would save the day. And that Cersei was going to use wildfire. We knew it all at least a week, but usually more - before it happened(despite none of that stuff being in the books). We might have hoped for something less cliche, but those were the most obvious options, as well as the easiest ones to write.

We didn't know, that the Dorne plot was going to play out the way it did, but that's just because that was a complete hack-job and made absolutely no sense.

AH!!! Jon and Dany...?
Why not Euron and Dany?

Euron does seem like her type - he's a brute and a warmonger - like Khal Drogo, and also crude, cynical, opportunistic and a psychopath - like Dario.
But we all know that's not going to happen, because you can't have a mainstream TV show, where in the end the princess doesn't end up with "Mr. Perfect"...

Or, better yet, Petyr Baelish and Dany? See how quick he ditches Sansa, when he sees Dany!

TV show Baelish has nothing to offer Daenerys. In the books - he's been working for years, getting half the noble families in Westeros in his pocket. Remember all that Bank of Bravos, demanding money from the Crown? Yeah - in the books that actually seemed to matter. On the show - Littlefinger doesn't seem to know what he's doing. He controls Robin's army, but he's not a military leader and not even a real lord. The best he could do is offer his ward Robin Arryn, as a match for Dany.

We know that dragon glass can kill the whitewalkers.... we know that Valyrian steel can kill them, too.
Dragon fire should produce a similar effect.
So, it should be a burn them all thing, in the end.[...]

That will be a terribly disappointing, boring ending - for me anyway. GRRM is anti-war and tends to break the stereotypes in his work - the heroes in his books are often characters similar to Varys, or Davos, not a dark handsome, violent emo, with a curvy blonde on his arm. Sure - the show creators might go there, because they're hacks, who think they have to appeal to the lowest common denominator, and in their opinion their audience are morons. But I think many viewers will not be easily placated with a few explosions in place of an interesting story...

The 2 things I don't care to see on GOT - Clegane (or any other) Bowl and dragons fighting White Walkers... Yeah - it's "Ice and Fire". That's not even symbolism at this point - just actual ice and actual fire. Ugh...

I'm sorry - I made a mistake of reading too much when I was a kid, instead of watching TV, so I have trouble keeping my expectations in check.

[T.J.]

You expect quality in your work of fiction?

Da hell da matter with u?

[Aegon]

Personally I enjoyed this season more than any other. Season 5 was the weakest for me, it did feel like 10 episodes of buffering relative to the seasons that came before and this one. S6 certainly wasn't perfect and suffered from the weak middle that has plagued the show for a while, but I thought the last two absolutely made up for its shortcomings and then some.
Maybe it's because I've never read the books. But in regards to that, the GRRM Reaper has had 20 fucking years to complete ASOIAF. Even when the show started back in 2011, he had 5 years to bring out Winds of Winter. The man has ascended to another level of procrastination. Considering the showrunners are now running essentially on fumes material-wise, working with broad generalisations and scraps, I think they've done an absolutely magnificent job of creating a show that is superb in its own right.

I agree about Season 5. There were a lot of moments this season that were dumb, but also a lot of fantastic ones that sort of balanced it out. Last season, however, was pretty much trash through and through.

[pocaracas]

Personally I enjoyed this season more than any other. Season 5 was the weakest for me, it did feel like 10 episodes of buffering relative to the seasons that came before and this one. S6 certainly wasn't perfect and suffered from the weak middle that has plagued the show for a while, but I thought the last two absolutely made up for its shortcomings and then some.
Maybe it's because I've never read the books. But in regards to that, the GRRM Reaper has had 20 fucking years to complete ASOIAF. Even when the show started back in 2011, he had 5 years to bring out Winds of Winter. The man has ascended to another level of procrastination. Considering the showrunners are now running essentially on fumes material-wise, working with broad generalisations and scraps, I think they've done an absolutely magnificent job of creating a show that is superb in its own right.

I agree about Season 5. There were a lot of moments this season that were dumb, but also a lot of fantastic ones that sort of balanced it out. Last season, however, was pretty much trash through and through.

Wasn't Hardhome in season 5?
Bran reaching the 3-eyed raven?
All the trouble with the Sons of the Harpy in Meereen...
The Sand Snakes up to no good...
Cersei's walk of atonement...
Jon Snow's rescue of the Wildlings and subsequent death...
Sansa and Ramsay got married in season 5... ah... such fond memories... I'm sure Reek agrees!

[Lucanus]

I remember fucking jumping around the living room clapping like a moron when Jon killed the WW at Hardhome. Probably one of my favourite moments in television

[Excited Penguin]

Read this, it's funny.

http://www.mtv.com/news/2899608/heres-wh..._s.fb_main


I think it's particularly idiotic to criticize an author for "procrastinating" when you don't have a clue about the whole process of writing, or his own situation with the monster he created.

[Aegon]

I agree about Season 5. There were a lot of moments this season that were dumb, but also a lot of fantastic ones that sort of balanced it out. Last season, however, was pretty much trash through and through.

Wasn't Hardhome in season 5?
Bran reaching the 3-eyed raven?
All the trouble with the Sons of the Harpy in Meereen...
The Sand Snakes up to no good...
Cersei's walk of atonement...
Jon Snow's rescue of the Wildlings and subsequent death...
Sansa and Ramsay got married in season 5... ah... such fond memories... I'm sure Reek agrees!

Hmm..... I forgot about Hardhome. That was good.

[Aegon]

Read this, it's funny.

http://www.mtv.com/news/2899608/heres-wh..._s.fb_main


I think it's particularly idiotic to criticize an author for "procrastinating" when you don't have a clue about the whole process of writing, or his own situation with the monster he created.

I think it's fair. He wrote himself into a terribly overly complex story. He himself refers to Dany's current storyline in the books as the "Meereenese Knot" because he complicated it to the point where he had no clue how to go on from there. A lot of his fans agree that the first three were higher quality than the last two. He's introduced so many factors so late and now he realizes that he needs to start wrapping it up and he has no clue how.

Plus he should know himself by now. He has consistently overestimated his writing pace. He told his publishers he'd have a full manuscript ready to edit by January of this year. He wasn't close to finished. And I feel bad for him because no matter what he says in interviews I know hes upset that the TV show is revealing things that he's spent over a decade building up to. But he's got nobody to blame but himself.

[Whateverist]

I think it's particularly idiotic to criticize an author for "procrastinating" when you don't have a clue about the whole process of writing, or his own situation with the monster he created.

You make a good point.  Then again if George didn't want the gig being my bitch he should never have promised me an end to the story.  

*turns toward George*

What are you looking at?  Get to work, bitch.