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May 7, 2016 at 5:56 am
(May 6, 2016 at 1:06 pm)Godschild Wrote: [...]The whole deal is no one today was there at the time and can't know what all happened or was possible.[...]
Neither was your bible, or the ignorant, fearful peasants, who made up the story of the biblical flood. So you can either believe the smart people, who weren't there, but have scientific evidence for their theories - or the thick as pig-sh*t people, who weren't there and have exactly f*ck-all to show, except some myths...
And while we're at it - authors of the bible weren't there 12 trillion years ago, when Lord Xenu murdered all those aliens, stuck them in volcanos on Earth and nuked them - so I guess it must be true, eh?
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May 7, 2016 at 6:16 am
HM, please, no need to put further ideas in his head!
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May 7, 2016 at 12:04 pm
I was there at the time. It happened exactly the way the scientists say it did. I took videos and everything, but I left my phone somewhere between the triassic and the '66 World Cup.
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May 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm
As a Brit I find it difficult to believe that anyone thinks that the biblical flood was a real thing. I don't think I've ever met anyone who thought that the flood was a real thing.
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May 7, 2016 at 1:01 pm
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RE: Christian answering questions.
May 7, 2016 at 1:25 pm
(May 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: As a Brit I find it difficult to believe that anyone thinks that the biblical flood was a real thing. I don't think I've ever met anyone who thought that the flood was a real thing.
One of the creationists I met was a Londoner. His best explanation for the why was "because I can't think of any other way." Used work with a Nigerian who got very agressive when I pointed how much evidence he had to ignore to hold his position of the earth being literally less than 10,000 years old. And this was ten years ago when I knew a lot less about evidence for the age of the earth than I do now.
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May 7, 2016 at 2:13 pm
I'm always astounded by someone who stubbornly clings to the belief that the flood was literal, as described in the babble, in the face of all of the evidence to the contrary. It's really easy to prove that Egypt and China and other places did not flood, for starters. Sure, someone who is completely brainwashed can just say "goddidit" to all of the objections. God took the trouble to strengthen and pilot the ark, to protect all of the aquatic life, god must have used his star trek transporter to get all of the animals to and from the boat, god put them all in suspended animation and shrunk them down into test tubes, then reanimated and transported them, god got rid of the excess water and desalinated the soil, and then with a wave of his hand, created new full-grown plant life all over the planet.
O . . . K . . . but why bother? Even if you get past the "I screwed up, and I need to kill all of the sinners" genocide angle, why the boat? Why kill all of the (innocent) animals, all the aquatic life, all the birds, all the trees, all the plants? God created billions of galaxies, killing a few people shouldn't be hard. He did it all the time in the OT, for the silliest reasons. He has an Angel of Death he used to kill all of the Egyptian firstborn, give that guy some work. He could have made a statement, he was always talking back then - "you broke my rules, now you're going to die, and I'm going to give the GOOD people the best land on the planet". But no . . . And it still didn't fix the screw up. People kept sinning.
How people can think that this is anything other than an extreme reworking of an older flood tale by Jewish priests to tell the people "god will kill all of us if you don't obey" is astounding.
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May 7, 2016 at 2:42 pm
(May 7, 2016 at 2:13 pm)drfuzzy Wrote: I'm always astounded by someone who stubbornly clings to the belief that the flood was literal, as described in the babble, in the face of all of the evidence to the contrary.
I'm always amazed by people believing any of the bible stories. Slaves out of Egypt, how did they manage to get lost for 40 years in these few hundred miles of desert? Why the fuck did they even feel the need to cross the Red Sea? Ever looked at an actual map? How the fuck did the Egyptians manage to lose a Pharao and his whole army without anyone recording the event? Quite of a biggie, as far as Egypt was concerned, since not only were they leaderless but defenseless too. Given that we even have Egyptian recepies for beer, one might think, there would at least be some stony remnant of losing Pharao and his army.
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May 7, 2016 at 8:59 pm
A million Ethiopians walked all the way to Israel and got killed.
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May 11, 2016 at 2:33 am
(May 6, 2016 at 12:27 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: The ad-hoc part is the most comical portion of their arguments.
Take Ken Ham for a perfect example. It's 2016 and he cant build this "ark" without modern steel and cranes. So he says that Noah must have had both, and that the technology must have been lost in the flood and resulting chaos.
It would be comical if it weren't so damned sad.
They have 58 days and 58 nights to finish the ark. http://www.newseum.org/todaysfrontpages/...p_id=OH_CE
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