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April 22, 2016 at 5:06 am
Here's another handy everyday practical fact to keep in mind:
If you add up this infinite series (allow some time for this):
1/1 + 1/4 + 1/9 + 1/16 + ...
Then multiply the answer by 6...
Then take the square root...
You get the ratio between the circumference and the diameter of any circle.
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April 22, 2016 at 5:16 am
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(April 22, 2016 at 5:01 am)robvalue Wrote: Wow cool
I've not heard that one before. So do you mean adding the terms up in a different order?
Yes, a simple example of an infinite permutation is this: add them by always taking the next two even ones and then one of the odd ones, then again two even ones, then one odd, you get the idea:
1/2 + 1/4 - 1/3 + 1/6 + 1/8 - 1/5 + ....
This series will eventually reach each term of the original one, but it converges to roughly 0.65 instead of 0.31 ! This always happens with series which are only convergent if you have alternating signs, but will diverge if you put "+" everywhere as in this case. Any series which is not still convergent if you put "+"es (is not "absolute convergent"), can be rearranged to yield an arbitrary real number. It's a theorem, I forgot how it is called.
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April 22, 2016 at 5:16 am
ooooOOO math geekiness!
The sum of all infinite positive natural numbers (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + .... ) is a negative fractional number!! O.o
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April 22, 2016 at 5:17 am
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(April 22, 2016 at 5:16 am)pocaracas Wrote: ooooOOO math geekiness!
The sum of all infinite positive natural numbers (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + .... ) is a negative fractional number!! O.o
Silly String theorists are to blame. But this is only true if you mean by "1+2+3+4+5+6+" not ordinary naive summation but interpret it as a limiting case of representations of the Riemann zeta function. The ordinary series obtained by summing "1+2+3+..." is simply divergent.
To be precise: The sum over (n^-z) from n=1 to infinity for constant z gives the famous Riemann zeta function zeta(z).
Sending z to -1 naively turns this series into "1+2+3+4+5+...", and the zeta function analytically continued in the complex plane to z = -1 is zeta(-1)=-1/12, which has spawned the meme that "1+2+3+4+5+ ... = -1/12", even though the n^-z series which we used to define the Riemann function at points away from z=-1 has no validity there. Still, it's quite mind-boggling that zeta(z->-1) doesn't simply diverge.
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April 22, 2016 at 5:37 am
(April 22, 2016 at 5:17 am)Alex K Wrote: (April 22, 2016 at 5:16 am)pocaracas Wrote: ooooOOO math geekiness!
The sum of all infinite positive natural numbers (1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + .... ) is a negative fractional number!! O.o
Silly String theorists are to blame. But this is only true if you mean by "1+2+3+4+5+6+" not ordinary naive summation but interpret it as a limiting case of representations of the Riemann zeta function. The ordinary series obtained by summing "1+2+3+..." is simply divergent.
Yes... the video does have a link to the Riemann Zeta function explanation...
But the one in there is still mind blowing...
However, the grain of salt starts with that first sum, 1-1+1-1+1-1.... = 1/2.... this is a limiting case, and not the ordinary series summation. The ordinary version would be just undefined.
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April 22, 2016 at 5:40 am
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See my edit for details. There are many ways to reinterpret 1+2+3+4..., I choose to think of it as a shorthand for the analytic continuation of the Riemann function.
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April 22, 2016 at 5:46 am
(April 22, 2016 at 5:40 am)Alex K Wrote: See my edit for details. There are many ways to reinterpret 1+2+3+4..., I choose to think of it as a shorthand for the analytic continuation of the Riemann function.
"I choose to think"?
What is this? a religion?
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April 22, 2016 at 5:48 am
(April 22, 2016 at 5:46 am)pocaracas Wrote: (April 22, 2016 at 5:40 am)Alex K Wrote: See my edit for details. There are many ways to reinterpret 1+2+3+4..., I choose to think of it as a shorthand for the analytic continuation of the Riemann function.
"I choose to think"?
What is this? a religion?
Yes. Religion is one way to try and come to terms with the absurd
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April 22, 2016 at 5:01 pm
Math geek diversion. Stop it!
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April 22, 2016 at 5:15 pm
Did you know that Jaws from the James Bond movies has been a mathematician teacher before becoming an actor?
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