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Oklahoma keeps getting it wrong.
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If there's no consent, it's rape, full stop. It doesn't matter if the victim gives an audible 'NO!', or if she's too hammered to say anything at all.
I imagine there are 17 year old males the length and breadth of Oklahoma thinking now that all they have to do is get a girl drunk to the point of incoherence and they won't be prosecuted for whatever they do to her. Da fuck is wrong with this court? Boru
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 RE: Oklahoma keeps getting it wrong.
April 29, 2016 at 4:27 am
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2016 at 4:27 am by Joods.)
(April 29, 2016 at 4:19 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If there's no consent, it's rape, full stop. It doesn't matter if the victim gives an audible 'NO!', or if she's too hammered to say anything at all. bold mine. This. Exactly. April is Domestic Violence and Sexual Violence Awareness month. This is the largest part of the campaigning that organizations who help victims deal with domestic and sexual violence and abuse try to make a point of saying. If there is NO consent, it IS rape. Period. If you aren't conscious or alert enough to make that decision, then you aren't conscious or alert enough to consent. That doesn't give anyone - man or woman - cart blanch to assault you because you are unable to speak up for yourself. Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
 
The specific act delineated in the article sure isn't what I was expecting. (WoG's observation springing to mind)
I'd assumed it was more oral on the part of the male . . . . Where I'm headed here, there is evidence of penetration, so this ruling is anomalous in the extreme. As out of date as English Common Law is these days, penetration is penetration. [period] The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
Courts don't make the law they just levy judgements based on what the law reads. If this court said it's not against the law it simply means as the current laws read this is not a crime. Solution? petition the state legislature to amend the law so the courts can make a guilty judgement if one of these cases are brought before it.
 (April 29, 2016 at 2:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Courts don't make the law they just levy judgements based on what the law reads. If this court said it's not against the law it simply means as the current laws read this is not a crime. Solution? petition the state legislature to amend the law so the courts can make a guilty judgement if one of these cases are brought before it. I have to say I agree with Drich, on this one. Oklahoma is known for a myriad of barbaric and anachronistic laws, this being among them. Remember, this is the state that tried to get around the Lawrence v. Texas ruling in 2004 by saying their state had a State's Interest (a loophole in the Lawrence case, which allows the state to regulate otherwise private behavior if there is a "government interest" at stake) in "public morality" which allowed them to continue arresting gay people for sodomy. It didn't last long under scrutiny, but it does give you a little insight into how Oklahoma lawmakers think.
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