NC Gov on the wrong side of history......

[Wyrd of Gawd]

[vorlon13]

I should have figured the South Park guys would have already thought of the TSA example. Heh.

Yeah, they ran with the idea.  And it all started with Clyde leaving the toilet seat up.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

The third and final round of this exchange... this time, all my words are actually my own. (Hehe.)

+Robert Richardson lol one I never called you a "hoe" that was a typo and I didn't assume your were trans. 2 there are many many many transgender people that you can tell are trans I mean have you fucking seen Bruce genner. 3 you say you are a feminist but you don't give a shit about women's safety obviously. do you know how many disgusting cases have been reported in the last month about women being raped in restrooms and girls molested. 4 I don't give a shit if transgender people are uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable anyway serious injury is at stake here. this is complete bull shit. you don't even have to be transgender to go into the bathrooms. I just watched a video where a man said he was just uncomfortable and asked if he could go into the ladies room. you throw all of that science and chemicals in the brain hull shit at me when I don't give a shi about trasngender people! I honestly couldn't give any fuck whatsoever to them. it's the fact that this new right allows any person that any given person that says they feel "uncomfortable" can walk into the opposite genders bathroom. your such a dumb ass.

+Joshua Comer Wait, I don't get it. On the one hand, you're saying that allowing trans women to use the ladies' room will allow rapes to start happening because men will impersonate trans women to make restrooms more rape-prone, necessitating a law to stop it, or else you get to claim I (and others) don't care about women... but then you talk about how many men just walk into women's restrooms to commit rape, already. It doesn't work both ways. It's not like the assaults just started happening when Caitlyn Jenner transitioned, and the mouth-breathers everywhere suddenly noticed that trans people really exist. Oh, NOW suddenly you're all worried about the rape epidemic!

Our rape culture has always been a dangerous problem, for reasons way too complicated to go into in a comments section... but demonizing a vulnerable group WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT (as even your side admits) on the odd chance that a few of those rapists MIGHT try to use the cross-dressing to pull off the ongoing rape epidemic in a new way, is dangerous and counterproductive. You may not care about anyone who is different from yourself or what you find normal, but the rest of us do. If you really want to learn what feminism is, or how to actually do something about stopping rape culture, there have been probably a thousand books published on exactly that subject by feminist authors. This is not and has never been about actually protecting women, or we'd have heard from your side about it, long ago. This is about shaming those who are different, about whom you "couldn't give any fuck whatsoever", and finding an after-the-fact excuse to justify this revulsion. If you really REALLY care about women, try reading just two books recommended by groups like Feministing.

Feminism is about treating women equally, with full dignity and humanity, not about pretending they are pretty little princesses who need our male protection. And it's certainly not about policing who gets to be properly called a woman and who doesn't, as if the world was black and white.

[SteelCurtain]

Oh boy, is that on a YT comments section? The infamous Google + symbol makes me skeered.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Oh boy, is that on a YT comments section? The infamous Google + symbol makes me skeered.

Yeah, I try to avoid them, but running into that one video just "got my goat", so to speak.

[SteelCurtain]

Brave, brave man.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

It gets even better! Heh. In another part of the discussion threads:

+Robert Richardson homosexuality is a mental illness and homosexual Behavior should be considered Criminal plain and simple. the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are homosexual homosexual spread disease far more than heterosexuals homosexuals are far more promiscuous than heterosexuals gay marriage while an Abomination and its own self is a farce faggets usually have no intention on getting married or being monogamous the f**** queer that is monogamous is a rare sight indeed I'm getting really sick and tired of liberal agenda trying to destroy our civilization and our traditions into thousands of years of moral Behavior is that most of us is that do follow God whether they are decent and follow him the way they should or not because at least some of them try have had stable relationships and stable societies for hundreds of years now it's all being undermined by the radical liberal left agenda.

Impressive! Literally not one thing you said in that rant is true. But it does show the true nature of what this whole "protect the women" anti-trans discussion is realy about. So, to set the record straight, I'll take it from the top.

1. It is not a mental illness, and no serious psychologist has considered it so for quite some time. Every professional psychological organization on the planet says it is not. You simply asserting something that is the opposite of what every expert on the planet says does not make it a valid counter-opinion.

2. The overwhelming majority of pedophiles are heterosexual, though the research suggests that pedophiles don't typically care about the sex of their victims, only their age and vulnerability. For you to suggest that one is connected to the other is in defiance of every fact research on this subject has uncovered.

3. Heterosexuals also spread the most disease, by a wide margin. If you will look at the CDC and World Health Organization numbers. I'm sure you're referring to HIV/AIDS, and not all the other diseases that only heteros can get (such as HPV/Cervical Cancer), but even that is primarily spread by hetero people. The numbers are publicly available.

4. So all those pictures of gay and lesbian people getting married when it was legalized was just a "farce", to fool us all, and they're only pretending to be in love and live together forever? Wow... good actors! I guess that's why they use George Takei (an actor!!) to represent them so often. Glad you saw right through it!

5. I'm not really sure what you mean by that rambling rant, there at the end, about the "radical liberal left agenda", but I am pretty sure that opening our society up to be more tolerant and fair is not going to destroy our civilization. All that God-talk about criminalizing gay sex and being "decent" sounds like Medieval thinking, like the Taliban wants, and frankly I don't want to take even one step back in that direction. Worship God how you want, but expecting others to do what you do in that regard is against everything any free person should stand for. As for history, well I'm afraid you don't have that one right, either. There are numerous examples of homosexuality-tolerating societies in history, from the Greeks to the Native Americans, which did quite fine.

Look, if you want to be opposed to the practice of homosexuality or anything else, then obey your god and don't screw a dude. It's really that simple. But when you start to tell lies in the name of your beliefs, we're required to stand up to you in order to maintain a civil society.

Lying for Jesus is still lying.

(For the record, the discussion was on the trans issue, not on homosexuality, but apparently my criticism of their reference to the manufactured hyperconservative Christian bullshit factory, the "American College of Pediatricians", in reference to the group's claims about trans people, caused this guy to lose his shit over liberal defense of homosexuals.)

[CapnAwesome]

[A Theist]

Ha! Excellent!

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