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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 3:28 pm
If he isn't, I am.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 3:33 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 3:28 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If he isn't, I am.
Hah, ok. They possess highly unique and non-random structures. From the specificity of the characters in the genetic code to the actual design that displayed in the phenotype, they all function extremely well. Ask yourself if we could design a better cell. What would you do differently if you were to design a cell?
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 3:42 pm
I'm not a designer. It's not my job to make the case for design.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm
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Anyways AAA if we are intelligently created you would have downgraded the quality of everything in the known universe
tremendously. Then you would have to acknowledge that your god you believe in is not all that bright......
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:09 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm)dyresand Wrote: Anyways AAA if we are intelligently created why is that Bacteria more complex than human beings because if you want to argue creation god would
love bacteria more than us humans.
Uhh...you think bacteria is more complex than human beings?
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:10 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 4:09 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (May 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm)dyresand Wrote: Anyways AAA if we are intelligently created why is that Bacteria more complex than human beings because if you want to argue creation god would
love bacteria more than us humans.
Uhh...you think bacteria is more complex than human beings?
I did not mean to write that....
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 4:08 pm)dyresand Wrote: Anyways AAA if we are intelligently created you would have downgraded the quality of everything in the known universe
tremendously. Then you would have to acknowledge that your god you believe in is not all that bright......
I don't follow. Why would it be downgraded if it were designed? And why would it mean God is not that bright?
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:48 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm)AAA Wrote: I don't follow. Why would it be downgraded if it were designed? And why would it mean God is not that bright?
Quite simple. There are certain animals that have one over us. Regrowing limbs or teeth, better sensual capabilities, the works. If we are supposed to be the masterpiece, we're a pretty poor example as it is. Not to speak of the evolutionary remnants in our own body. Google is your friend if you were to look them up. Not that I think you would do that, since your type never does.
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:49 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 3:42 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I'm not a designer. It's not my job to make the case for design.
No, but you say it doesn't contain features of design. Then I ask what features could it have that would make it count as design and you refuse to give some. Do you want it to have the ability to communicate using electrical signals? Do you want it to be able to repair itself? Do you want it to read an information dense code? Oh wait, it does all those things. Just tell me one characteristic of a designed sytems that life doesn't have
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RE: Atheism vs. God's Existence
May 20, 2016 at 4:50 pm
(May 20, 2016 at 3:26 pm)AAA Wrote: You're the one who thinks there is no evidence of design in nature. If you don't like their chapter titles, then take it up with them. They don't believe in intelligent design, but don't laugh when I say scientists think it has features of design. If they didn't want their chapter titles to be repeated, then they shouldn't have called them that. Are you seriously going to tell me that life doesn't have features of design?
No one outside of the Intelligent Design movement thinks that there's evidence of design in nature. Worse, you willfully try to use "appearance of design" as synonymous with "is apparently designed", when they are nothing of the sort. It's why I used the simple example of snowflakes, in our prior discussion on this subject, which can easily appear to be the intricate work of a specialized artist, but really are only the result of the way the electrons "orbit" around the water molecules at an angle.
We're baffled at the level of skull density it takes to think that the way he's (actually, the book has three authors, so I'm referring to whichever author or editor chose the chapter titles) using "Design" in the chapter headings of a biochemistry book indicate that life or DNA is literally designed by an Intelligent Designer.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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