Wait, if photons have no mass how can they be affected by the gravity of a black hole? O.o
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Can you catch light in a pot?
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This is a question for CD, though slightly modified.
Hey, CD, how often do you light the pot?
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  (June 3, 2016 at 1:31 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:(June 3, 2016 at 12:50 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: This is a question for CD, though slightly modified. I thought you converted to swallowing.
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 (June 3, 2016 at 12:48 am)pool the great Wrote: Wait, if photons have no mass how can they be affected by the gravity of a black hole? O.o Think of gravity as a space-time flow rather than a force. This also addresses the problem of gravity escaping a black hole. IMHO
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Pooley,
Contrary to what is popularly said, according to Einstein, gravity affects Energy and is produced by Energy. Mass is just a special form of energy. As IATIA says above, think of it as curvature of space+time and it becomes clear that everything is affected!
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June 3, 2016 at 9:48 am
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(June 3, 2016 at 9:32 am)Alex K Wrote: Pooley, So you guys are saying gravity affects space time, okay, but how can gravity affecting space time affect light causing it to bent ? Light doesn't need a medium to travel right? This is confusing. According to my knowledge, light has no mass, light doesn't need a medium to travel, I mean, if light doesn't need space time to exist or travel how can the effect gravity have on space time reflect on light? (is my question legitimate or should I read up on it?) RE: Can you catch light in a pot?
June 3, 2016 at 9:56 am
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(June 3, 2016 at 9:48 am)pool the great Wrote:(June 3, 2016 at 9:32 am)Alex K Wrote: Pooley, It was discovered that light needs no medium, but recently that is on the table. (The Michelson–Morley experiment may be flawed) Think of space-time as a river that anything will float in. Drop anything in and it will flow with the river. The speed of a boat includes the speed of the current. Light of course is a little more complex than that, but the principle is sound. Space-time has always existed. Without space-time, there would be nothing.
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June 3, 2016 at 1:38 pm
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(June 3, 2016 at 9:56 am)IATIA Wrote:(June 3, 2016 at 9:48 am)pool the great Wrote: So you guys are saying gravity affects space time, okay, but how can gravity affecting space time affect light causing it to bent ? If I could put into words how intelligent you are, I think I'd die, I'm not sure why, but I think I'll die, you're THAT intelligent. It's amazing to see you come up with simplified posts that explain complex.I just want to shake your hands and thank you for sharing earth with us. You are awesome. I have some ideas and doubts regarding light(they're pretty wacko,on par with "are you smoking again pool?"), you'll be one of the top persons on my list to reach out to. Thank you thank you thank you. 
An easier way to visualise it is to think that light isn't being curved by the effects of gravity.
Light "thinks" it is going straight. The warped space it is travelling through is the only thing not straight. You have to be "outside" to see this effect. Just like here on earth we don't feel like we're whizzing around in space at thousands of miles per hour. Simple relativity.
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