Take some fucking responsibility!

[Thumpalumpacus]

To me it's akin to suggesting we rape them back. I don't want anyone making any alterations to my body without my permission. I can't imagine living in a world where the government gets to decide whether I've done something bad enough to deserve some kind of alteration. Chemical or not it still alters your body.

We require drunk drivers to abstain from alcohol, which also changes the body chemically.

[FatAndFaithless]

I mean, forcibly making changes to someone else's body as punishment against their will, sounds pretty cruel to me.

We require children to be inoculated before they're admitted to schools, for the safety of the wider population. Do you also oppose that?

You seem to have missed the "As punishment" part, which is an important factor.  And you're honestly comparing vaccinating children to castrating rapists?  The health benefits of vaccinating kids are one of the most settled issues I can possibly think of.  Punishment of rapists by castration doesn't seem to serve as any sort of deterrent, and it's cruel and unusual punishment.

[Minimalist]

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/prospect...-sentence/

Prospective jurors refuse to serve en masse in Judge Aaron Persky’s court over rape sentence

Prospective jurors told Judge Aaron Persky this week that they would not serve in a jury in his Santa Clara County Superior courtroom due to a lenient sentence given to former Stanford student Brock Turner.

The San Jose Mercury News reported on Thursday that at least 10 potential jurors spoke out during jury selection for an unrelated stolen property case.

[FatAndFaithless]

To me it's akin to suggesting we rape them back. I don't want anyone making any alterations to my body without my permission. I can't imagine living in a world where the government gets to decide whether I've done something bad enough to deserve some kind of alteration. Chemical or not it still alters your body.

We require drunk drivers to abstain from alcohol, which also changes the body chemically.

What? No we don't, we just take away their license or put them in jail.  And again, the chemical changes resulting from whatever withdrawal they might experience is not the punishment.  The chemical changes that one experiences from being castrated is the punishment.

[abaris]

We require children to be inoculated before they're admitted to schools, for the safety of the wider population. Do you also oppose that?

There's a very big difference between the two and if you reflect on it, I'm sure you notice.

Maybe it's because I'm coming from a part of the world where eugenics were all the rage for a pretty long period in time, but I'm certainly opposed to inflict irreversible damage to someone else's body.

A lesser known fact, Switzerland made what they considered imbeciles or irresponsible (mostly women) infertile up until the late 70ies. Against their will.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

We require children to be inoculated before they're admitted to schools, for the safety of the wider population. Do you also oppose that?

You seem to have missed the "As punishment" part, which is an important factor.  And you're honestly comparing vaccinating children to castrating rapists?  The health benefits of vaccinating kids are one of the most settled issues I can possibly think of.  Punishment of rapists by castration doesn't seem to serve as any sort of deterrent, and it's cruel and unusual punishment.

If you were locked up with 1,000 rapists how long do you think it would be before some raped you?  After that would you still be against castration?

[FatAndFaithless]

You seem to have missed the "As punishment" part, which is an important factor.  And you're honestly comparing vaccinating children to castrating rapists?  The health benefits of vaccinating kids are one of the most settled issues I can possibly think of.  Punishment of rapists by castration doesn't seem to serve as any sort of deterrent, and it's cruel and unusual punishment.

If you were locked up with 1,000 rapists how long do you think it would be before some raped you?  After that would you still be against castration?

What a terrible and irrelevant argument.  Yes, honestly if I went through that I would probably react pretty emotionally.  However, as I said before, we don't have (and shouldn't have) a legal system based on emotional responses to situations.  

"What if you were locked up with 1000 rapists?" Yeesh.

[Losty]

Still seems cruel and unusual to me. I will never think it's a good idea. Seems morally wrong to me. My mother taught me very few things that I still believe and one of them is that two wrongs don't make a right.

You may be right. Believe it or not, I do have a compassionate side myself. I just don't expose it often.

Maybe I am. I certainly feel like I'm right. Morality is extraordinarily subjective though.

[Losty]

To me it's akin to suggesting we rape them back. I don't want anyone making any alterations to my body without my permission. I can't imagine living in a world where the government gets to decide whether I've done something bad enough to deserve some kind of alteration. Chemical or not it still alters your body.

We require drunk drivers to abstain from alcohol, which also changes the body chemically.

They can choose to go to jail instead. I mean....they won't be getting alcohol there either.

I'd say there's a huge difference between a chemical alteration as a result of stopping doing something vs a chemical alteration as a result of forcing something to be done.

I don't know if you're playing devils advocate here. I always have a really hard time imagining there are people who really believe that physically harming someone is ever an acceptable form of punishment.

[Edwardo Piet]

Subjective or not, logically speaking two wrongs do not entail a right. You are at least objectively correct about that.