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Being a sinner just for being born
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RE: Being a sinner just for being born
June 11, 2016 at 6:55 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2016 at 6:55 pm by ApeNotKillApe.)
(June 11, 2016 at 6:52 pm)robvalue Wrote: That's your interpretation Steve. You don't get to speak for all Christians. He seems to be making a go of it, seeing as he's taking up contradictory positions.
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(June 11, 2016 at 6:49 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 11, 2016 at 6:26 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Neither Luther nor Calvin agree with you, according to the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_s...eformation So, if someone who inherits a sin nature never actually commits a sin, what then? What's the penalty for not getting the state-of-being repaired?
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RE: Being a sinner just for being born
June 11, 2016 at 7:07 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2016 at 7:08 pm by robvalue.)
(June 11, 2016 at 7:01 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 11, 2016 at 6:52 pm)robvalue Wrote: That's your interpretation Steve. You don't get to speak for all Christians. Even if that were the case, it's still not all Christians. It is an interpretation, one you happen to agree with. But you don't get to speak for all Christians. Feel free to send me a private message.
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June 11, 2016 at 7:15 pm
(This post was last modified: June 11, 2016 at 7:16 pm by robvalue.)
Even if Protestant is by definition a Christian who isn't Catholic, that doesn't mean that a non-Catholic Christian is forced to accept poplar Protestant dogma. It's a false dichotomy.
Any Christian, or group of Christians, can believe and teach whatever they want, regardless of how you label them. Feel free to send me a private message.
Please visit my website here! It's got lots of information about atheism/theism and support for new atheists. Index of useful threads and discussions Index of my best videos Quickstart guide to the forum (June 11, 2016 at 7:01 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 11, 2016 at 6:52 pm)robvalue Wrote: That's your interpretation Steve. You don't get to speak for all Christians. Do you ever know what the fuck you are talking about? http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/ar...s2c1p7.htm Quote:The consequences of Adam's sin for humanity It seemeth not. (June 11, 2016 at 7:02 pm)KevinM1 Wrote:(June 11, 2016 at 6:49 pm)SteveII Wrote: You are still confusing inheriting a sin nature with what you are going to be punished for. Is it possible that someone never commits a sin? Most mainline protestant doctrine of sin holds that a child will not be judged for their sins (covered by grace) until they reach the age of accountability. That is the time (difference for everyone) at which they can comprehend their sin and become accountable for their response to God. Cognitively impaired people would also fall into this category. Now the question is whether a person, who has reached the age of accountability, could have led a sinless life up to that point. I don't think that is a possibility (I have 5 children and know it was not true for them), the Bible teaches that it is not possible, and I don't think there is any evidence that is the case. (June 11, 2016 at 7:07 pm)robvalue Wrote:(June 11, 2016 at 7:01 pm)SteveII Wrote: No, that is not my interpretation. That is mainstream protestant AND catholic doctrine. Wouldn't want to. Just trying to correct when I see gross simplifications or misunderstandings of concepts that aren't fully understood. (June 11, 2016 at 7:28 pm)SteveII Wrote: ...we inherit a sin nature--a state that requires some kind of repair if we are to get back to the original state. In so many words, you just agreed with what everyone has been telling you. With what the title of this thread says.
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