Can I just say, and I'm just being honest...

[J a c k]

[Little lunch]

Reminds of the time when my now ex-wife wanted to convince me of....well, something.  She gave me a Deepak Chopra book, can't recall the title, but I think it's still around here somewhere.

I'm guessing she didn't succeed

My brother has apparently become obsessed with this Peterson guy, which is a little worrying. He's rather vulnerable to this kind of thing. My stupid dad seems to be encouraging it too for some weird reason, and isn't providing a sanity balance for him. It probably won't lead to anything much though.

Which is all the more reason to read that book you were given so as to be able to debunk arguments you find unsound.
But I think the biggest worry about someone becoming obsessed with Jordan Peterson is that many of his arguments are posted onto youtube by right wing activists who think he's on their side.
So you can find a lot of right wing bullshit side by side with his videos.

[vorlon13]

Um . . .

Intersected briefly with that other weird timeline again. Second time in 3 years or so. Unsettling and disturbing. Found out my 'phantom' brother in law died recently. Quite an over achiever. Wonder if we would have gotten along? I barely remember him, damn it was 40 years ago, after all. Not a bad looking man, I'll give him that. His sis is married and divorced, I suppose best that could be hoped for. No desire to catch up with any of them. Both parents are dead, curious as I recall them being rather young, even 40 years back . . .

[Edwardo Piet]

My guess is that anything "smart" that comes out of his mouth is an idea he has stolen from somebody else.

When you see him have a conversation with someone who actually is smart, he quickly shows himself to be a complete moron.

Or maybe I just have high standards

I've seen his talk with Sam Harris and he comes across as a real dick.
But if you think he's a complete moron then it's obvious you've not really looked into him at all.

Actually if you think he isn't one, I guess you haven't really looked into him.

He says there are two different positions on truth, the Newtonian one and the Darwinian one, and neither of those things have ANYTHING to do with truth! One is physics and the other is biology! And he conflates theories of truth and theories of epistemological justification too! Anyone non-moronic who has read up on philosophy would understand this stuff. He has read up on it and hasn't understood any of it, because he's a moron.

Being a pseudo-intellectual that doesn't understand stuff you read up on, makes you a moron rather intelligent. At least that's the way I see it.

Either that or he's just doing a really good job of coming across as someone who doesn't even understand the very basics of the stuff he reads about and talks about!

I get that he's well read and educated... but whether he actually understands the stuff he reads about is another matter. I guess we have different views on what intelligence is.

[Little lunch]

I guess we just have differing ideas about what constitutes a complete moron.
So yes, your standards are extremely high.
I actually barely understand your first sentence anyway so I must be one of those things way lower down than moron.
Nevertheless, I still think if you delved a little further you might find some of his ideas interesting.

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By the way, do you have a job at the moment, cause waitering is really, really easy I've heard. :-)

[Tiberius]

Very well, then.
Give people a contract for an average of $11.00 per hour, and start discouraging tips, countrywide. Clearly, the consumer is affording it, as well as the employers.

But, as for the present day reality, how do the employers account for the tips to reach that minimum of $7.25, if they are not declared by the employees?

Servers are supposed to report tips to their employer each month, unless the tips were less than $20 total for that month. Employers can do the calculation of minimum wage off that report.

If they are not declared by the employee the employee is breaking the law, plain and simple.

I usually tip via credit card, so the employee will know the tip amount anyway.

[*Deidre*]

CIJS, I missed this place, and most everyone here. But, why must there always be that one guy who is a jerk to me? And it's always someone I've never talked to before, and not even talking to within a thread. But, the person feels the need to be a jerk to me.

If you're reading this, don't quote me anymore, and stay away from me. I don't know you, and don't want to know you.

[The Valkyrie]

CIJS, I missed this place, and most everyone here. But, why must there always be that one guy who is a jerk to me? And it's always someone I've never talked to before, and not even talking to within a thread. But, the person feels the need to be a jerk to me.

If you're reading this, don't quote me anymore, and stay away from me. I don't know you, and don't want to know you.

Who am I killing?
??

[*Deidre*]

CIJS, I missed this place, and most everyone here. But, why must there always be that one guy who is a jerk to me? And it's always someone I've never talked to before, and not even talking to within a thread. But, the person feels the need to be a jerk to me.

If you're reading this, don't quote me anymore, and stay away from me. I don't know you, and don't want to know you.

Who am I killing?
??

I'd totally clone you. 

[Joods]

Who am I killing?
??

I'd totally clone you. 

Ikr?
Not only is she smart, but she's hot too! Like OMG.