Curious to know

[Little Rik]

I don't think you understand what a NDE is Rik. I'll explain one last time.

Someone almost dies, and has some sort of experience. The brain is under immense strain in such extreme situations, so it's fairly common for it to produce hallucinations. It "experiences" things that didn't actually happen.

If you're suggesting that these "experiences" might actually also be real, then you're in the realm of fantasy. Just because a brain experiences something, it doesn't mean it literally happened. That is wild speculation backed by no evidence.

So having a NDE is not proof of anything.

Roberto.
Doctors do not say that the bloke almost die.
They say that the bloke really died.
Are you more qualified than a doctor?  

[robvalue]

Do you know what the N stands for, Rik?

[Little Rik]

Suppose some respected member of this forum had an NDE.
After that they come back here on the forum telling that God exist.
Would you believe them and give up atheism or no thinking that they just had
some sort of hallucination?  

There's a respected member?

Personally I barely know enough about anyone on the forum to respect anyone on here in any real significant amount.

Whoever it was I'd assume they'd had some sort of hallucination. 

I'd really hope it wasn't the creator of this website who had the near death experience because I'd guess these forums would be fucked if that was the case.

Lol.
I like your comment.  

[LastPoet]

Sorry for that.
I never posted a poll so I wasn't sure how to do it properly.  

It's cool, Enrico, gave me a chance to do my first thread merge.

Only merging 1000 posts will come close to birth pains., but not even that close

[Losty]

Most of the people in my afk life that I have a high level of respect for are theists. They believe for reasons, though not convincing to me, that I consider to be valid reasons. I still don't believe. So I have no idea why a goofmeister like Robgrandma becoming a believer over an NDE (which I consider to be one of the most ridiculous reasons to believe) would convince me.

On the contrary, if it were Rob, I would be convinced that it was a not so eleborate scheme to prank the forum.

[robvalue]

Funny you should say that, you'll never guess what just happened...

[Losty]

I don't think you understand what a NDE is Rik. I'll explain one last time.

Someone almost dies, and has some sort of experience. The brain is under immense strain in such extreme situations, so it's fairly common for it to produce hallucinations. It "experiences" things that didn't actually happen.

If you're suggesting that these "experiences" might actually also be real, then you're in the realm of fantasy. Just because a brain experiences something, it doesn't mean it literally happened. That is wild speculation backed by no evidence.

So having a NDE is not proof of anything.

Roberto.
Doctors do not say that the bloke almost die.
They say that the bloke really died.
Are you more qualified than a doctor?  

If the bloke is dead I suppose he won't be telling us about his NDE eh?

[Athene]

[robvalue]

This is of course word games.

"Dead" can mean being in a state where it's impossible to come back to life.

Or you can be declared "dead" going by some specific criteria.

In the first instance, if a doctor says you are dead and you come back to life, they were simply wrong.

In the second instance, there's no guarantee any particular criteria is enough to establish the impossibility of recovery. And clearly, whatever criteria they came back from, it wasn't enough.

[Little Rik]

Do you know what the N stands for, Rik?

I have seen smash repair shops turn a total wreck into a new car.
I stop wondering about life and death long time ago.
Now I know that everything is possible.