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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm
(June 25, 2016 at 10:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 21, 2016 at 9:02 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It's a great video; anyone who watches/listens to this video cannot possibly have any confidence in "Biblical" Christianity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9US4OxB0Dk
So, "believers", what say you?
Christianity is till alive and well and will be forever, he hasn't changed a thing about Christianity how could he, he doesn't even know what Christianity is about.
GC
Wow, GC, you're really ignorant! Professor Ehrman was a fundamentalist Christian who went to Moody Bible Institute! After that, he went to Wheaton College, where Craig studied as a communications major.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 12:23 am
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(June 24, 2016 at 8:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Yes, it does: 6 But he said to them, “Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid Him. 7 But go, tell His disciples—and Peter—that He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him, as He said to you.”
Again, that doesn't support your argument. That says he was raised - not that he was given a bodily resurrection, the two concepts are clearly different. Jesus appearing to people in visions from the celestial realm is the same thing that people experienced in the Old Testament with Jehovah. Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus and his disciples during the Transfiguration - were they resurrected in bodily form as well? Or was that simply a vision from the celestial realm?
(June 24, 2016 at 8:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Mark 1-8 says nothing of the ascension. Where in the world do you get that? The body is gone from the tomb and the angel says Jesus will meet them in galilee. That's bodily resurrection.
The Angle does NOT say that Jesus will meet them in Galilee. He simply says Jesus will appear to them, just as Moses and Elijah appeared to them during the transfiguration. Furthermore that's just another inconsistency: in Mark the Angle tells the disciples that, in Matthew Jesus tells them himself. You can clearly see the evolution of the resurrection myth.
(June 24, 2016 at 8:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Seriously, another person trying to change the subject to that? LMAO
Matt 27:52-53: "The tombs were also opened and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And they came out of the tombs after His resurrection, entered the holy city, and appeared to many."
In Matthew's account of the resurrection, Jesus is just one of many dead saints that leaves his tomb to appear to people. Yes granted he does this AFTER the other zombies get to appear to people, but it's not special because countless other saints also did it.
(June 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Wow, GC, you're really ignorant! Professor Ehrman was a fundamentalist Christian who went to Moody Bible Institute! After that, he went to Wheaton College, where Craig studied as a communications major.
And as I have pointed out as an atheist, much of what Ehrman has to say is well outside of both his own area of expertise and general scholarly thought. He is not a textual critic, yet he pretends to be, and worst of all he lies directly about textual criticism which offends the sensibilities of many actual professional textual critics. Textual criticism is the process by which scholars get the original wording of the NT, and identify parts of the OT and NT which are non-original to the autograph. Ehrman has contributed nothing to that particular field of study: ergo he isn't a textual critic, thus he is not an authority on the matter. His expertise are more to do with early Christianity and the lives of Jesus and Paul (as is the case with most NT scholars, really). You can quote him on that stuff from the academic literature, and that's fine. But quoting him on matters of textual criticism is the equivalent of quoting L. Ron Hubbard as an authority on modern psychiatry.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 10:38 am
(June 24, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 11:02 am)Drich Wrote: The day the lambs are killed IS THE DAY OF PREPARATION you old goat! they are talking about the same DAY!!!
Where in John does it say that Jesus ate the Passover meal?
Again any meal he ate during Passover week would be considered a Passover meal.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 11:05 am
(June 24, 2016 at 6:34 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Ehrman explains in the long video.... Dripshit would never get that far.
Because He FAILED in the set up... So then why oh why would I consider a conclusion that finds it reason based on a failed set up/assertion?
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 11:55 am
Keep being stupid, dripshit. We wouldn't recognize you any other way.
Your fucking bible is a pile of horseshit, son. Accept it and move on with your fucking life.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 1:21 pm
(June 24, 2016 at 9:56 am)Spirian Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 9:53 am)Drich Wrote:
Says some nobody 2000+ years AFTER it was put in place!
I'm a nobody? No, sir, I am an actual man, unlike your Jesus, who is an amalgam of many pre-christianity mythical gods. Thanks for the warm welcome, BTW.
2000 years after a religion based on nobody, will self destruct at any time now..
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 1:24 pm
The Bible talks about Jerusalem. Jerusalem did in fact exist, and still does. Therefore Ehrman is wrong.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 1:37 pm
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(June 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote: (June 25, 2016 at 10:12 pm)Godschild Wrote: Christianity is till alive and well and will be forever, he hasn't changed a thing about Christianity how could he, he doesn't even know what Christianity is about.
GC
Wow, GC, you're really ignorant! Professor Ehrman was a fundamentalist Christian who went to Moody Bible Institute! After that, he went to Wheaton College, where Craig studied as a communications major.
Ah, but did he ask -Drich- for his opinion? You have to understand what you're dealing with here. If he didn't consult Drich, he couldn't possibly have been a True Christian or scholar of True Christianity - because Drich speaks directly for god and his comments are unanimously binding as regards the nature of the same.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 1:56 pm
"Jerusalem" did not exist between 135 and 639 when it was called Aelia Capitolina. Captured by the Arabs it was renamed Iliya and a couple of centuries later to al-Quds. Presumably the Crusader barbarians tried to rename it Jerusalem but they got pitched out on their holy asses in short order and back to al-Quds it went. When the UN fucked the Arabs over in 1947 I guess the name came back into style.... but that is a pretty long hiatus!
I am always amused during easter when they show films of idiot xtian "pilgrims" crawling along the "Via Dolorosa" as if they are following in fucking jesus' footsteps. I can always imagine the Israeli archaeologists who are working 30 feet below them in the first century levels laughing their asses off at such fools.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 2:47 pm
Point of fact, the "jerusalem" of the bible may just as well have been in Detroit.
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