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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 3:13 pm
In George Athas' study of the Tel Dan inscription he makes the point that what the jesus freaks insist is "house of david" is actually an aramaic place name. (The stele is written in Aramaic.)
Given the apparent size of the population, Athas makes the case that the site was little more than a palace for the local Egyptian governor which would not be inconsistent with other palace settings in the region. When the Egyptians withdrew whoever became the strong man took it over.
Think of it in medieval terms as a castle meant to serve as a strong hold for a given area.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 3:31 pm
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(June 27, 2016 at 1:21 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 9:56 am)Spirian Wrote: I'm a nobody? No, sir, I am an actual man, unlike your Jesus, who is an amalgam of many pre-christianity mythical gods. Thanks for the warm welcome, BTW.
2000 years after a religion based on nobody, will self destruct at any time now..
Do you have something to say, or do you prefer making childish allusions?
I must say, as a Christian, you're not only doing a poor job of adhering to 1 Peter 3:15, your mockery is also quite revealing.
Shouldn't you be practicing your own shtick? Again, your welcome is exactly what I expect from fake ass posers like you.
If your god is the real deal, and your bible is true, then your lukewarm ass is doomed son.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 4:33 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 3:31 pm)Spirian Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 1:21 pm)Drich Wrote: 2000 years after a religion based on nobody, will self destruct at any time now..
Do you have something to say, or do you prefer making childish allusions?
I must say, as a Christian, you're not only doing a poor job of adhering to 1 Peter 3:15, your mockery is also quite revealing.
Shouldn't you be practicing your own shtick? Again, your welcome is exactly what I expect from fake ass posers like you.
If your god is the real deal, and your bible is true, then your lukewarm ass is doomed son.
I'm sorry, did you honestly think my response by using a house emoji as a response to blasphemous disrespectful comment towards God and or this religion was not gentle?
My poor thin skinned lost brother, maybe you should spend a few years on this side of all those well crafted atheist digs, if you want a true sampling of harsh disrespectful comments. Not to mention you seem to be over looking what verse 16 is in reference to... If you actually looked no one asked me about the joy i had in me, rather i was pointing out the painfully obvious that obliterated any sense of legitimacy you comment had by simply stating the obvious...
In short...
Me simple showing levity towards a foolish and short sighted comment, shows far greater 'respect or/and gentleness' than the comment you left intended with your dig...
So good luck trying to sell your take on 1 pet 3:16 to the next christian that hurts your feelings..
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 5:22 pm
"Simple" is your middle name, dripshit.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 5:31 pm
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LOL, blasphemy, the word religious people use when they realize that their own personal offense is meaningless. I'm curious, though, what do you do to blasphemers when you aren't being "gentle"?
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 5:45 pm
Blasphemy - because god is apparently a college kid who needs a safe place from words he doesn't like.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 8:32 pm
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(June 27, 2016 at 12:23 am)Aractus Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 8:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Yes, it does: 6 But he said to them, “Do not be alarmed. You seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He is risen! He is not here. See the place where they laid Him. 7 But go, tell His disciples—and Peter—that He is going before you into Galilee; there you will see Him, as He said to you.”
Again, that doesn't support your argument. That says he was raised - not that he was given a bodily resurrection, the two concepts are clearly different. Jesus appearing to people in visions from the celestial realm is the same thing that people experienced in the Old Testament with Jehovah. Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus and his disciples during the Transfiguration - were they resurrected in bodily form as well? Or was that simply a vision from the celestial realm?
(June 24, 2016 at 8:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Mark 1-8 says nothing of the ascension. Where in the world do you get that? The body is gone from the tomb and the angel says Jesus will meet them in galilee. That's bodily resurrection.
The Angle does NOT say that Jesus will meet them in Galilee. He simply says Jesus will appear to them, just as Moses and Elijah appeared to them during the transfiguration. Furthermore that's just another inconsistency: in Mark the Angle tells the disciples that, in Matthew Jesus tells them himself. You can clearly see the evolution of the resurrection myth.
(June 24, 2016 at 8:44 am)alpha male Wrote: Seriously, another person trying to change the subject to that? LMAO
Matt 27:52-53: "The tombs were also opened and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised. And they came out of the tombs after His resurrection, entered the holy city, and appeared to many."
In Matthew's account of the resurrection, Jesus is just one of many dead saints that leaves his tomb to appear to people. Yes granted he does this AFTER the other zombies get to appear to people, but it's not special because countless other saints also did it.
(June 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Wow, GC, you're really ignorant! Professor Ehrman was a fundamentalist Christian who went to Moody Bible Institute! After that, he went to Wheaton College, where Craig studied as a communications major.
And as I have pointed out as an atheist, much of what Ehrman has to say is well outside of both his own area of expertise and general scholarly thought. He is not a textual critic, yet he pretends to be, and worst of all he lies directly about textual criticism which offends the sensibilities of many actual professional textual critics. Textual criticism is the process by which scholars get the original wording of the NT, and identify parts of the OT and NT which are non-original to the autograph. Ehrman has contributed nothing to that particular field of study: ergo he isn't a textual critic, thus he is not an authority on the matter. His expertise are more to do with early Christianity and the lives of Jesus and Paul (as is the case with most NT scholars, really). You can quote him on that stuff from the academic literature, and that's fine. But quoting him on matters of textual criticism is the equivalent of quoting L. Ron Hubbard as an authority on modern psychiatry.
Your analysis above your reply to me is brilliant; having said that, the following observation about Professor Ehrman needs to be made (emphasis mine):
Quote:Ehrman grew up in Lawrence, Kansas, and attended Lawrence High School, where he was on the state champion debate team in 1973. He began studying the Bible and its original languages at Moody Bible Institute, where he earned the school's three-year diploma in 1976. He is a 1978 graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois, where he received his bachelor's degree. He received his PhD and M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he studied under Bruce Metzger. He received magna cum laude for both his BA in 1978 and PhD in 1985
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman#Education
And (emphasis mine):
Quote:Bruce Manning Metzger (February 9, 1914 – February 13, 2007) was an American biblical scholar and textual critic who was a longtime professor at Princeton Theological Seminary and Bible editor who served on the board of the American Bible Society and United Bible Societies. He was a scholar of Greek, New Testament, and New Testament textual criticism, and wrote prolifically on these subjects. Metzger is widely considered one of the most influential New Testament scholars of the 20th century.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_M._Metzger
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 8:35 pm
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(June 27, 2016 at 10:38 am)Drich Wrote: (June 24, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Jehanne Wrote: Where in John does it say that Jesus ate the Passover meal?
Again any meal he ate during Passover week would be considered a Passover meal.
You didn't answer my question. Where in John does it say that Jesus ate the Passover meal?
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RE: Bart Ehrman destroys Christianity in under 12 minutes.
June 27, 2016 at 9:37 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 4:33 pm)Drich Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 3:31 pm)Spirian Wrote: Do you have something to say, or do you prefer making childish allusions?
I must say, as a Christian, you're not only doing a poor job of adhering to 1 Peter 3:15, your mockery is also quite revealing.
Shouldn't you be practicing your own shtick? Again, your welcome is exactly what I expect from fake ass posers like you.
If your god is the real deal, and your bible is true, then your lukewarm ass is doomed son.
My poor thin skinned lost brother, maybe you should spend a few years on this side of all those well crafted atheist digs, if you want a true sampling of harsh disrespectful comments.
Strawman.
I was responding to you in my post, not to your years of butthurt here in a place where you are adrift amid logic which you cannot understand.
1 Peter 3:16 talks about your "good behavior" - where was that (good behavior) in your three responses to me?
Let's get one thing clear dipshit... I'm onto your fake ass christian bullshit, and I'll not respond further to your circular wanderings.
Frankly, I'm surprised the mods have let a poe like you last so long on such a good site.
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