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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 2, 2016 at 4:40 am
(July 2, 2016 at 2:33 am)Excited Penguin Wrote: So let me get this straight, you're telling me you're not going to wage war on the rest of the world and re-colonize half of the planet?
Depends if fascism takes root here and in the US. Of course it wouldn't be successful but exceptionalism isn't exactly grounded in reality.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 2, 2016 at 9:25 pm
(June 27, 2016 at 2:29 am)Mathilda Wrote: Talking about food production though, farmers won't be given payments from the Common Agricultural Policy now to insulate them from the peaks and troughs of the market. This won't lead to hunger but it will lead to many farmers going out of business.
Many more farmers going out of business, you mean. Even with CAP payments (horrifically administeded by the Dept of Agriculture), farmers in the UK have been going out of business in large numbers for a few years, mainly because of supermarket power, they've been supplying at well below the cost of production.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 3:31 am
(July 2, 2016 at 9:25 pm)Constable Dorfl Wrote: (June 27, 2016 at 2:29 am)Mathilda Wrote: Talking about food production though, farmers won't be given payments from the Common Agricultural Policy now to insulate them from the peaks and troughs of the market. This won't lead to hunger but it will lead to many farmers going out of business.
Many more farmers going out of business, you mean. Even with CAP payments (horrifically administeded by the Dept of Agriculture), farmers in the UK have been going out of business in large numbers for a few years, mainly because of supermarket power, they've been supplying at well below the cost of production.
Yep, and after that, it's inevitable that more food will need to be imported into the UK. Unfortunately a quid doesn't buy today what it did on the international market ten days ago.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 3:53 am
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Is there any news on un-fucking ourselves?
Come on government, grow a backbone on your hairy balls. Don't let the toddler walk into the oven.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 4:41 am
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 4:59 am
I see, thank you
I would guess this whole disaster will have made people lose faith in the Tories. Cameron was responsible for this shit, but presumably with ample backing from his party.
Labour yeah... oh dear. I see what you mean, there could be something of a void to fill. It's a shame because I like labour more and more, regarding some of their policies.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 5:01 am
I've like what I have seen of Corbyn. I feel he is often misrepresented.
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July 3, 2016 at 5:22 am
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 5:30 am
The day we get proportional representation is the day things will actually be fair.
But then the fucking racist public might vote UKIP in. Ugh.
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RE: The Un-united Kingdom is fucked now
July 3, 2016 at 6:01 am
(July 3, 2016 at 5:22 am)Mathilda Wrote: It seems like the Labour party is currently filled with people who shouldn't really be in the same political party but because of First Past the Post need to be in order to win against the Tories. This is why Labour are fighting amongst themselves rather than opposing the government.
There's a problem for social democrats all over Europe. Their previous electorate is pretty much gone. Manual workers and unions have lost a lot of clout, as far as votes are concerned. On the other hand there is a new precariate. IT guys working for a pittance, freelancers of all sorts. These people are currently fuclked over left, right and center, since they got no lobby. Coservatives don't give a shit about them, and the so called New Labour movement doesn't either. Yet they are the ones, desperately in need of some security and representation, since their numbers are constantly growing.
That's who Labour should cater to, since they are the new working class. Being outsourced by companies to run what they call their own business. But all in all just an excuse to get shot of workplace legislations and to pay them even less than they would pay their employees.
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