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Lucifer
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(July 15, 2016 at 1:59 pm)robvalue Wrote: He seemed to work in our time pretty good in the bible, when he was a character like any other in a linear timeline.

 God wasn't, isn't and never will be restrained by time. Those are only a few stories about a few people when there were millions upon the earth. He actually waited for many years before punishing the Israelites. 

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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I love how apologetics works, in such a retarded manner.
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We're really lucky to have people here to tell us all the details about how God works.

It's a shame those details are different depending on who tells us. Why would that be, I wonder? Is there a God for each person?
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Didn't you know, Rob, there is a different interpretation for God for every denomination of the Christian religion?
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(July 15, 2016 at 5:39 pm)madog Wrote:
(July 15, 2016 at 12:32 pm)Godschild Wrote:



GC

You might not like the obvious, but if you think people don't do atrocities and many other actions based on the delusion that they are doing "Gods" work, then you need to be in a cage with padded walls 

If you think it was no coincidence that people died over your church, then I can only assume you think "God" did it? Or do you have another culprit?

The Bible has many examples where people are deluded enough to kill because they think it is what "God" wants , a small step from letting "God" do his own dirty work  Dodgy

 Your post shows you have, nada, none, no understanding of the Bible.

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(July 16, 2016 at 2:08 am)Maelstrom Wrote: Didn't you know, Rob, there is a different interpretation for God for every denomination of the Christian religion?

And for each person within that denomination too. God never stays the same from one second to the next. His word salad powers and specific bugbears are constantly morphing.
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(July 16, 2016 at 2:09 am)robvalue Wrote: And for each person within that denomination too. God never stays the same from one second to the next. His word salad powers and specific bugbears are constantly morphing.

Yet he's so all powerful we must be struck by lightning for not believing.
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(July 15, 2016 at 6:32 pm)lisah Wrote:
(July 14, 2016 at 9:59 pm)Godschild Wrote:  Yes there are those who have committed atrocities that we would consider worse, but then it's not up to us to decide who commits the worst atrocities against God's holy work, that belongs to Him. When people interfere in God's work to bring salvation to those He will lead to salvation that is an egregious act that God want let alone. Yes I could give you all the details of what they did but, you wouldn't think they were awful enough to warrant such punishment. I've been here to long and read to much  to believe otherwise. So you'll just have to accept what I've said as the truth or not and decide things for yourself. I've not given you a reason to believe me a liar and I hope you will take that into account.

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I am not calling you a liar, just questioning (or challenging, if you prefer) your perception. After all, people claim many things. Such as alien abduction, for instance.
 I was there, I saw it all unfold and for those who were punished it wasn't pleasant, they themselves admitted they were wrong, but only after the punishment came. This is not my story it's a churches story.

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And not spiteful at all. If someone was interfering with me building a house I'd totally kill them a few years later.
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(July 16, 2016 at 2:12 am)Godschild Wrote: but only after the punishment came.

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I am daily punished. It does not mean I resort to fiction to relieve something that only acceptance of reality can fulfill.
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